Imovie project when burned thru idvd looks horrible

I have worked for several months on making my first Imovie. It is about 1hr in length. It combines both narration, video, soundtrack and still images. When I previewed the project on imovie looked great. I can also export thru quicktime and it looks good, but not as good as it does in imovie. When I followed the directions on how to export to Idvd, I was unaware of how poorly the finished project looked in Idvd. I burned it and was let down as all my titles where pixelated and the still images are combing real bad. Also some of the images are jerky in the ken burns effect. I find this frustrating as I can save it as a quicktime file and it looks pretty good (but not as good as in imovie). It appears to me that everything I have tried as far as importing to idvd looks horrible when Idvd gets done with it. In fact even the Idvd menu I made looks pixelated and horrible. I am making this dvd to sell to others and to present at talks I am giving. The quality is so poor I am thinking about bagging the whole project. I noticed on the forums regarding both idvd and imovie many of the questions about the quality degredation in idvd dont get answered. Or when they do get answered, the answer is to purchase final cut or more software in general. What I want to know is can I make my excellent looking imovie look acceptable in idvd? If not, why? Why would mac make a option to make a movie project look good in imovie, but the only way to export it is to make it look horrible? Also, is there a way to make a dvd in idvd that looks as good as my Imovie project (without dropping 1,000$ for more software which I am not going to do as now I don't trust it until I see it first)? What am I missing here?

Hi Adam,
Just some general comments about exporting from iMovie '09. From posts on the forum, and from my own experience, it's best not to use Apple's preset export option "Share to iDVD". You may not have used this, but it produces an AIC (Apple Intermediate Codec) movie that doesn't look good when burned through iDVD, for some reason. Odd, considering that iMovie edits in this format. _The option "Share to Media Browser" gives much better results._
You don't mention what format your source footage is (to the best of my recollection). This may have a bearing on the final result (burned DVD). Is it DV or AVCHD or some other format? iMovie '09 has a reputation for producing less than stellar results with DV footage, due to the way it handles interlaced material. AVCHD footage turns out quite well on DVD after editing in iMovie.
If you have not already tried this, export using "Share to Media Browser". In iDVD, from the Media tab, drag your movie into the background area of the iDVD theme, then proceed to set up the DVD as usual. When sharing to the Media Browser, you have a range of sizes to select from. Try Large (960x540) and also HD (1280x720). I've used both but see little difference, if any, in the final DVD. But I do get quite good results with both. The picture is softer and less saturated when compared with the original AVCHD footage viewed via the camcorder on an HD TV. This is to be expected, given one is HD and the other SD, of course. But it shouldn't be as bad as you are describing.
There are many posts about DVD quality on the forum. As you would be aware, some offer very good advice. Try different methods using a short test project to see what gives the best results for you. Look out for an e-book by Steve Mullen - not free, but some good tips there.
Hope this helps in some way. Quality issues can be frustrating!
John
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