Implementation strategy for non sap sources

hai friends,
could anyone help with the
'implementation strategy for non sap sources'.

Hi,
Its the same as with R3 sources.Only difference is you'll have different underlying interfaces. Non SAP systems can either be flat files, ETL systems or legacy systems using ETL connection, Oracle or Java systems XML, etc.
But your stategy would remain the same only per your non sap source system, the transactions and the ways you configure your datasources would differ.
Cheers,
Kedar

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hi dear,
clearly the most valuable input given by BW is a native integration with all SAP world...
well, you can manage a BW without having a SAP ERP as source system:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_bw33/helpdata/en/80/1a618ae07211d2acb80000e829fbfe/frameset.htm
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Hi,
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Hi Experts, I have this client who has no R/3 systems. They have few MS Access databases, Oracle systems annd MS SQL DB. I have seen some of the most commonly used tables in all the databases and doesn't look like there are not even a single InfoObject that is similar to any one in Business Content. Now this makes me feel that I need create everything from scratch. Can anybosy guide me on the best way to go about extracting data from this non-SAP systems. Right from connecting to these systems to extracting data in BI to creating some meaningful reports.
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hi,
The BW can be connected to Non-SAP data using DB or UD connect.
The data in Non-SAP source system is staged in form of tables.
You can extract the data using Data Source based on DB or UD connection.you can define new info objects and data flow which extracts the data. In DS description you can mention the Non-SAP source system tables from where you want to extract the data, after that u can mention the fields to be extracted in BW.
regards,
Arvind.

"SSO" for non-sap web application using SAPGUI to browse?

I have a web application (non SAP) and the user base are also SAP users in an ABAP system.
To strengthen the authentication in the web app, I wanted to implement SSO
authentication as we pity the users for having to remember so many strong pw's and I
dont like LDAP based pw sync or other technology I dont understand, because then we are
just yet another application with the same pw...
We are having technical problems implementing SSO on the web app side, and are anyway a
bit sceptical about the user admin / role admin assignment if we get it to work.
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send the SAP sy-uname as the web app user. We can control this using s_tcode, and
an own auth object on the WAS side and a check on the session type before the connection is
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Kind regards,
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Hi Julius,
well, if that web application would run on the same ABAP backend system then the solution described in <a href="http://service.sap.com/~iron/fm/011000358700000431401997E/0612670">SAP Note 612670</a> would be applicable:
a so-called "Re-entrance ticket" (based on the "SAP logon ticket" SSO proceedings) is issued, transported via the SAPGUI connection and back to the system via the invoked HTML control.
But for non-SAP web applications that does not help.
In that case only X.509 client certificates can be used for SSO. Actually, the web application could then also be invoked directly (independent from the SAPGUI session). The user is authenticated based on the X.509 client certificate - and not based on the ABAP userID (of the SAPGUI session).
Well, if you don't mind the effort you could also use the "SAP Logon Ticket evaluation library" (sapssoext, see <a href="http://service.sap.com/~iron/fm/011000358700000431401997E/0304450">SAP Note 304450</a>) to evalute the SAP logon ticket externally. You'll then need to have a "stub application" at the ABAP side that triggers the http redirect to your external web application. Not a nice solution but a possible one.
In the future SAML browser artifacts would be an option (preferable to integrate non-SAP applications). But currently that's not available (for NWAS ABAP).
Cheers, Wolfgang

SSO FOR NON SAP APPLICATIONS

SSO for non sap applications in EP on which siteminder sso is integrated
Posted: Aug 28, 2006 7:09 AM Reply E-mail this post
Hi ,
we have implemented Siteminder on SAP PORTAL 6 SP16 for authentication.I would like to integrate non sap application in Portal.I could not find any documentaion for setting up non sap application's in portal on which siteminder external authentication is implemented.
can anybody help for getting step by step document.
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Hi,
if you have access to service.sap.com via S-User, you can download "SAP Enterprise Portal Security Guide" in the portal section. It has dedicated descriptions about SSO-Settings, also about netegrity.
You can also search help.sap.com about "SSO" which gives you overview descriptions.
On SAP Service Net, there is also an pdf "Integrating Security functions" in the Netweaver 2004s Portal section, where the description of the Java API for the PDK is included. This is very helpfull for coding.

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Hi,
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2. a problem is the naming convension of tables and fields - the BW/database connector supported not all. create the fields
- in upper case and
- a length of ... (16 characteristcis?)
- without special signs.
=> looking in service.sap.com/notes for "DB connect"
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hi all,,
I know how to setup service desk for SAP use. Can some one provide me some tips on using solution manager - service desk for non-sap as well? eg: the company wants to use service desk for normal activities as well, as laptop not working, server down, other system issues etc.
The questions I have are -
1) Any specific structure to be created for the non-sap? The way we use in SAP specific environment is to use "SAP Components" while creating tickets. How can we create tickets for non-sap components? What will be the "responsibility" selection?
2) How about the Ibase? For SAP, the ibase already have the data from SMSY. How can I get data for non-sap systems? Anything is SAP to keep the Asset management data (like entries of laptops, servers etc)
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Hi
You need to go for service desk XT which is the extension of service desk to manage non sap or IT incidents
Check below link
https://websmp110.sap-ag.de/_solutionmanager
Heterogeous system environments are a challenge for IT-service management in any company. The associated complex structures and varying forms of media often make it difficult to realize efficient service processes. With SAP Solution Manager Service Desk - Extended Usage (Service Desk XT), SAP offers a centralized support tool as a single point of access - for service requests and problem tickets related to SAP and non-SAP software.
The Single Point of Access for Support
SAP Solution Manager, which is a standard part of every SAP solution and therefore can be used by all SAP customers, supports users in SAP relevant service requests. The standard function of the service desk is restricted to service requests.
With Service Desk XT, SAP provides an extended support tool, which can be also used for general service requests, for example regarding IT or telecommunication equipment.
This priced add-on does not require additional interfaces to third-party products - the same service requests are used for SAP and non-SAP applications. This simplification is a benefit for your employees.
This solution has been created with IT service providers in mind, especially those which work within a company and currently do not have an IT-service desk application in place or would like to replace an existing system.
Also,
check this link
pg(46)
https://websmp205.sap-ag.de/~form/sapnet?_FRAME=CONTAINER&_OBJECT=011000358700000147532009E
Pg 52 onwards
https://websmp205.sap-ag.de/~form/sapnet?_FRAME=CONTAINER&_OBJECT=011000358700000059742008E
https://websmp205.sap-ag.de/~form/sapnet?_FRAME=CONTAINER&_OBJECT=011000358700000548652007E
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I have configured the CCMS Agent (SAPCCMSR) for non-SAP system (Windows 2008R2).
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Hi,
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thanks.

Hi,
https://websmp203.sap-ag.de/~sapidb/011000358700001965262003
https://websmp203.sap-ag.de/~sapidb/011000358700006591612001
https://websmp203.sap-ag.de/~sapidb/011000358700001971392004
https://websmp203.sap-ag.de/~form/sapnet?_SHORTKEY=01100035870000471477&_OBJECT=011000358700008927932002E
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We would like to implement Single Sign On between our SAP Netweaver system and a Siebel which is a non-SAP system using SAP logon tickets.
Can anyone please give me some leads on this, in particular:
1. Is there a JAVA API or an SAP plug-in that can be implemented on the Siebel machine to extract the SAP logon ticket?
2. As the other machine might seat on a complete different domain, is it possible to implement SAP logon ticket without using cookies (perhaps through the HTTP header?
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Roy

Hi,
I'm currently using SAML as well. Unfortunately the SAP J2EE cannot work as authority (identity provider) but what you can do is using an open implementation of SAML such as opensso which is an open version of SUNs Java System access manager.
There are a couple of other projects such as opensaml, apache's wss4j or shibboleth that might be interesting in this context.
I just installed opensso and got it working with SAP J2EE 7.0 using SAPs JAAS SAMLLoginModule to authenticate users within SAP J2EE.
In this scenario opensso serves as identity provider just as you need! There are a couple of Policy agents available on SUNs Download site you can use with Apache, Tomcat, JBOSS, WebSphere, Bea Web Logic etc. in order to authenticate! Otherwise you just directly authenticate against opensso. When installing opensso you can configure the type of user store you want to use! By default it uses LDAP but you can also use different types of user store using JDBC or other mechanisms. Since you have a Directory Service you could easily connect it to your existing directory.
There is also a way to map user ids directly in opensso by adding a uid mapping class. I created some documentation with lots of screenshots about using opensso with SAP J2EE. You can easily use opensso with any other system that supports SAML. In the case of SAP the usage is currently limited to SAML versions 1.0 and 1.1. Version 2.0 is not yet supported but should be in one of the following versions.
Here are some links you might want to check:
OpenSAML: https://spaces.internet2.edu/display/OpenSAML/Home
wss4j: http://ws.apache.org/wss4j/
shibboleth: http://shibboleth.internet2.edu/
opensso: https://opensso.dev.java.net/
On SDN you will find a documentation on how to connect SUN Java System Access Manager to SAP J2EE (see https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/906d9fc6-31b9-2910-1385-90edad7d7570). As I said opensso is based on the SUN Access Manager code and looks quite the same. So you can adapt this documentation in order to configure opensso or you can just ask me for the documentation.
Hope this is helpful...
Let me know if you need further assistance on this topic
Cheers

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Hi ,
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we have implemented Siteminder SSO on SAP PORTAL 6 SP16 for authentication.I would like to integrate non sap application in Portal.I could not find any documentaion for setting up non sap application's in portal on which siteminder sso external authentication is implemented.
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Any advice would be highly appreciated.
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I am new to CRM. I use SAP Jco API's to connect to SAP from my java application. Similarly now i want to connect to CRM.
Basically the required is to consume or send BDOC across Java application (non-sap system) and SAP CRM.
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Hi,
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Hi,
I want to use a webservice from a non-SAP system.
It is necessary to define a technical and business system in zhe sld for that non-SAP system?
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I want to use a webservice from a non-SAP system.
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When yes, is this a standalone or a 3rd party system?
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