Import ID tagged text file results in paragraph style overrides

I have been working on a project that requires the import of a large amount of information from a database. I have defined all the paragraph styles in InDesign and have a program to apply the paragraph style to the database information creating the InDesign Tagged Text file. When I place it into my document the paragraph styles are recognized but there is an override. If I clear the override, the text looks fine. I have an example document that I have exported and imported some text to rule out the program, but even in this case, an override occurs. Text is there, the paragraph format is there, but font size (for example) is wrong. Where should I be looking to correct this issue?
Harold

I don't recognize any of those being wrong, per se. I have the file on another computer, so I mocked up yet another one. Sorry
Again in this one I did ASCII export, no fancy characters. And this one demonstrates the problem, too. I have two kinds of paragraphs. A big one and a small one. I create those paragraph styles. I select the only two lines in the file. Export and then bring them in underneath themselves to compare.
The paragraph styles for the newly Placed paragraphs are gone. The font color is the same. But the font size and font have not changed.
I manually edited the IDTT and removed the <Japanese feature> tag. Placed it again. Font color is the same, but the size and font are wrong.
In other words, my problem is that ID does not seem to apply the paragraph style to the text when it is imported. Aren't the font size and font defined in the Paragraph Style?
My end goal is to define some paragraph styles and create the IDTT automatically from a database. My hope was that the paragraphs would be formated properly based on the predefined styles when the IDTT comes in. I cannot get it to do this even for a pared down example. Aren't other users doing this?
Here is the IDTT on pastebin (with the <Japanese...> tag removed)
http://pastebin.com/Vdc6NVDV
And what it looks like after the intial Place with <Japanese...> tag in, edited line from Small to "Deleted Japanese feature...", removed tag from IDTT and then did another Place.

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