Import keywords

I'd like to be able to import keywords and keyword sets.
If I'm right, keywords and keyword sets are held in Adobe Bridge Keywords.abdata. Not sure what the file format is, but it's not XML, which slightly surprises me, and it doesn't look like one that's meant to be hacked.
The feature would allow users to source keywords from controlled vocabularies or from lists output from asset managers like Portfolio and iView. Ideally one would like to be able to roundtrip - adding metadata to DNG's in the DAM or in Bridge.
John

Ah, I know exactly what you mean, LinusF but that's making Bridge into a rather different beast! I certainly hoped Adobe would launch a cataloguing program with Photoshop CS2 rather than a browser/raw interface like Bridge. As it is, iView can write metadata to the DNG files and this lets Bridge users integrate their workflow more than Portfolio users (like me). It's interesting what you say about PSE/Album.
But I do think you make a good point. Adobe designers, brilliant and highly-paid as they are, can't possibly anticipate every way in which Bridge will fit into people's workflow. So there needs to be plenty of possibilities to integrate with other software - hence this import request and another I made for VB scripting.
The focus needs to be on users wanting to integrate with non Adobe stuff (too). Maybe I'm wrong but the omission of VB scripting from Bridge 1.0 makes me think Adobe don't expect people to integrate with non Adobe products. Well, in my case at least Photoshop is the only paid-for Adobe product I need (until the Macromedia acquisition goes through).
Getting that off my chest, I don't want this to appear like an anti Adobe rant. For me Bridge does what it says it will do, and does so quickly on my system, while other improvements in Photoshop CS2 are already saving me time and letting me do new things. I also get the idea that this XML keyword feature request is kicking at a wide-open door and I look forward to a pretty-slick implementation!
John

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I try to give you few brief answers.
1) I have almost 1000 keywords (including synonyms) and I don't have problems. But at least some previous versions of Lightroom were unusable with controlled vocabularity keyword set which contains something like 11000 keywords. I haven't recently heard any comments about large quantity of keywords. So someone with more experience should comment on that.
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7. Open your "good" LR catalog by doing File > Open Recent.
8. Do Metadata > Import Keywords and select the file you exported in step 6.
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I try to give you few brief answers.
1) I have almost 1000 keywords (including synonyms) and I don't have problems. But at least some previous versions of Lightroom were unusable with controlled vocabularity keyword set which contains something like 11000 keywords. I haven't recently heard any comments about large quantity of keywords. So someone with more experience should comment on that.
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3) Synonyms are written as keywords when images are exported. As far as I know current search tool does not support synonyms (yes, this is weird).
Hope this helps at least a bit.
Jukka,
Finland

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I've just started a 30 day LR trial and need some guidance, please, on successfully importing keywords from CS3 Bridge so that the complete heirarchy survives intact.
I've just imported the keywords to LR2 and found the heirarchy is mostly destroyed.
Also, Bridge allows you put a keyword inside "[ ]" (square brackets) if you want/need that word in the heirarchy but do not want it to be copied to the metadata. After importing to LR2, all the square brackets have gone.
I've imported some photos into LR2 but, when I look at their keywords, all the words which were within square brackets (and so not visible in the metadata in Bridge) are now visible in the metadata in LR2.
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Ginger
I ran a test for you. Started up my old computer that has windows XP OS. Took a photo and added a keyword by right clicking as your previous post outlined. I then looked at photo in Bridge CS3 on old machine. There was no keyword. Copied to flash drive and looked at photo on Vista computer with Bridge CS3. Still no keyword. Ran a search on Vista advanced for keyword on flash drive, and it gave a hit.
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Perhaps with these clues someone else can figure it out.
Good luck

Importing keywords...

Sorry, posted in wrong category, should be here:
Well I just discovered something annoying...
I imported about half of my existing library to try out LR. Along with the import, LR added all the keywords that were already associated with the files being imported. Great!
So I decided to take the time to organize my large number of keywords buy putting them in a hierarchal "parent/child" structure and condensing them using the "synonyms" box where applicable. It took a long time, but I did it!
Then, I decided, ok, lets import the other half of the library now and guess what... it imported all the keywords again. The only problem, it didn't recognize that most of the keywords were already there!
So, if I created a structure like:
USA->California->San Francisco
from what used to be:
USA
California
San Francisco
I now have the following in my keyword list after importing more images:
USA->California->San Francisco
USA
California
San Francisco
Which means I have to go back and reorganize my entire keyword list again... with the added PITA of moving files that have the keywords:
USA
California
San Francisco
to:
USA->California->San Francisco
before deleting the duplicate entries.
LR should be smart enough to know that a keyword is already in the keyword list, even if it is as a child or a synonym. At the least there should be two checkbox options for importing:
- Import keywords already in database as synonym
- Import keywords already in database as child
Otherwise this will be a continuing problem any time we import files that already have keywords associated with them.
Jeff

I've found yet another occurrence of this happening. Lets say I spend hours and hours organizing my keywords as I describe above. And then spent even more time re-organizing because LR re-imported a lot of those keyords with an image that was imported into LR. Well, finally I've got all my synonyms set up, I've got keywords in their correct hierarchies, etc, etc. And now I'm not goin gto be dumb enough to re-import images outside the library into LR only to have my keywords messed up all over again!!! That would be insane!
So, I go about key-wording some of my images inside LR. These images have a lot to describe, so there are quite a few keywords being added to the images. I then export the images using LR. All the exported images now have all the expanded keywords that they should.
But I exported the key-worded images into a directory that will be synced back into the LR library. Guess what... all those keywords that I took time to organize, that are in the images I'm now importing into LR... they are all back into their flat structure even though they are already well organized in the keyword list somewhere else. And, you guessed it... now I have to go back through and get rid of all those newly imported keywords that were already in the library. FOR THE THIRD TIME.
Please do something about this. Oh and additional way this could have been avoided... since I was doing the keywording in LR and I did the exporting in LR, and I exported into a directory that was already in the LR library... LR should have known this image and I shouldn't have had to re-import it which would mean the keywords would never have been re-imported, which would mean I'm not going to spend yet another hour of my life fixing my keywords. Or... just ad an "import/don't import keywords option."
Jeff

Elements Organiser 10 in Windows 8 Lost the 'Imported Keyword Tag'

Using Classroom in a book (Elements 10) with Windows 8, I seem to have lost the 'Imported Keyword Tags' in the Keyword Tags Panel whilst struggling in Lesson 2, whilst trying to make sense of the Organiser,

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I have a similar situation. In upgrading from Elements 7 to 11 all my keyword tags are lost; both in the keyword panel and the tags on each of my imported pictures. I didn't install the Elements 11 I had a tech do it when I took my computer in for other issues, so I'm not sure of any of the specific steps taken when this was done. Any way to get these back short of "tagging" each picture again?
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Import keywords from database

I have found the parent XML file that contains my keywords (Adobe Bridge Keywords.XML). Is it possible to add additional files that contain keywords (eg. Adobe Keywords 2.xml) without affecting the existing lists of keywords?
I have found the ability to import keywords via the keywords panel and a tab delimited file, but I would prefer an XMl format or database structure in which I could preserve the hierarchical (or relational) structure of the keywords sets.
Is this possible? I am not afraid to write some script if necessary or to learn some XMP coding if necessary but it doesn't seem like it should be that difficult since the keywords seem to simply be xml files.
Thanks for any suggestions!
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