Import live objects from Illustrator to InDesign

Hi, I want to import objecs from Illustrator to InDesign. However, I need live objects (including e.g. texts, styles, swatches). Currently, I know only two possibilities:
1. copy in AI and paste in ID. This will copy the objects but e.g. text is broken into curves, no styles are copied.
2. place AI document. This way I cannot modify the document in ID (I have to go back to AI), I also cannot use the text styles from the original document for other texts created directly in ID
Is there any other possibility? In reality I don't need to do the import via GUI. If I can make a plugin or script for this it would be enough. I have experience with creating plugins for AI but ID is very different internally. I have studied the SDK but I still did not find any possibility how to import the data.
can anybody help me? thanks.
Libor

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Hi Mylenium,
The program just loads useless to use your words when I try to pass a file from Illustrator to Photoshop and when I click anywhere in Illustrator I get Program "Not responding" it doesn't crashes (stops) it stais opened but it doesn't do anything so I need to close it by force from task manager because I can't do anything with it.... Once I left it over night to save an important file and just in the morning I managed to do that so after a while it comes round but all the time there are different periouds of pending. Anyway this is not normal and I should be able to use the program in normal parameters with a powerful system.
I don't have any processor over load in the task manager I don't have anything unusual that indicates an over load of information, that's my problem. My guess is that I have a system incompatibility but I don't know where so that's why I asked for Adobe's help. Again I didn't had this problem using the same pack (CS5) with a less powerful system...
If there are any creash logs pelase tell me where can I find them ?

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