Import or duplicate ?

I have tons of photos (4gig) in my Hard Drive that I would like to organize in different albums. I have several questions :
1. Does IPhoto just create a link to the original photo and leave the original in its previous location or duplicate it
2. Does Iphoto keep the original name ?. Often the photos I make have the same name in the different compact flash card I get. Being lazy, I don't change immediately the name of the photo (sometimes never), and put them in different folders so that they are not over written by another one sharing the same name.
What will happen if I ask IPhoto to import everything from two or three folders at the same time ?

I'm wondering if I've come across some undocumented feature in iPhoto. One of my clients has asked me to get rid of the MANY duplicates she has in her iPhoto Library. I copied her iPhoto Library to a removeable disk, brought it home, and imported it into iPhoto in a new user account. Prior to importing, I came across quite a number of damaged files that could not be imported, so I had to do some manual moving of photos and thumnails.
Lo and behold, when I imported her Library into a NEW Library, the duplicates seem to have disappeared altogether! I was going to use a shareware product to remove them, but I can't find a duplicate anywhere in the new iPhoto Library.
Does it make sense that this process would eliminate duplicates?

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