Import PDF into Framemaker 7?
Greetings
Using FrameMaker 7 in Windows XP.
I have some 11 × 17 drawings (created in AutoCad) that I receive in PDF format. They are high quality line-drawings. When I zoom in they are of high quality, the print menu shows them as 200dpi and the print quality is very good.
I need to import them into Framemaker but when I do, they come in at what is clearly NOT high quality. The notes can't be read and the like. I've tried opening them in Photoshop (low quality), I've tried doing Save As.. and choosing JPG (low quality). I even tried saving as RTF.. same thing.
Ultimately, what I want is to bring the high quality pdf image into Framemaker, but it's not retaining the quality.
I've seen some suggestions in the forum, but none that seem to address this situation.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Solon
Solon Aquila wrote:
The "200dpi" was something I observed at some point, possibly when I had copied/pasted into Photoshop, I'd have to look at it again. When these paste to Framemaker, or are saved as RTF, or I use the Acrobat tool for 'grabbing' images (Sorry,don't remember the name), they look AND print like 72dpi or something. I can't read the notes and callouts, so I can't use them.
Solon,
Arnis is definitely correct, there shouldn't be any "dpi" applicable with a CAD PDF. Should be vector, although "resolution independent" is often not completely true, since many CAD apps convert curves (bezier, spline) to polylines consisting of many straight segements.
I say Auto-Cad because in the lower-right corner, with other document information, it says "Auto-Cad - No Manual Changes" and I know we have people who use Auto-Cad.. perhaps it was "UG" ... apparently another drawing program.
I can zoom and zoom and zoom.. but I didn't zoom to the end of the earth. If they're vector, they'll never lose resolution, right?
If it's vector, should I be able to open them in Illustrator? (I recall being unable to, but I've tried so many things I may not have tried Illustrator)
AutoCAD and UG (= Unigraphics) are able to create vector output. Yes, you should be able to open such a file in Illustrator.
I don't scale them to fit pages, I get them as 11 × 17 (I turned on the rulers to confirm). Though if I print one and it prints on 8.5 × 11, it's a delightfully clear drawing. Better readability than if I put the image in Frame or save as RTF then print on 11 × 17.
I'm beginning to suspect that you're right in the 'bad PDF' idea.. I was surprised that I couldn't open one in Frame.
All the things you describe sound like a well-known problem: Are you trying to print on a non-PostScript printer? These are exactly the symptoms:
- Acrobat prints PDFs clearly, because Acrobat itself rasterizes images for output on non-PS printers.
- FrameMaker prints 72dpi preview images, because EPS (and converted PDF) images are only correctly interpreted by a PS printer driver
- Doing anything image related using RTF is a bad, bad idea in any case. Regarding vector graphic it's a bad, bad, bad idea
I'll be back at work tomorrow morning, I'll check a couple of things out. One person has suggested I get a copy of a program that'll translate the DWG file (I have access, if I need it) to other formats.
So, my question now is if it IS Vector, will I be able to zoom the PDF in acrobat and basicaly never lose resolution? (I always thought that once you PDF it you lose the zoom capability).
If a PDF is vector, zoom capability is preserved. Illustrator opens PDF and DWG, which gives you control over line weights and colors. Better than doing it in Acrobat. Anyway, a placed vector PDF in FrameMaker 7.x should work, but is only printed correctly when using a PS printer or the Adobe PDF printer. Same with EPS. One bug with PDFs in FM7: Black/greyscale PDFs appears on *all* four color separations.
Regards,
Bernd
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