Import XMP Metadata Kills My Image Edits

I imported a batch of JPGs from a recent trip and happily used LR to rank them, add labels and adjust them in the Develop module. Later, when LR was not running, I used another program to modify some of the embedded meta data in these JPGs (in particular the dates).
On my next visit to LR I used the Import XMP Metadata From File command, hoping to get LR to recognize the modified dates. This turned out to be a big mistake. All my previous ranking, labeling and developing was lost. Oh dear.
I guess I was under the impression that the Import XMP Metadata From File command would synchronize the metadata in the files with the metadata in the database. It appears to have simply replaced the database values with what was in the file. So is this a bug or did I just misunderstand the feature?

Last history state? See
Loading metadata resets Develop settings.
>I can go back to Develop and "back up" because the history is all there, but this would have to be done file by file,
Don
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Import XMP Metadata From File

In Beta4, the Import XMP Metadata From File command would import data found in an xmp file.
In V1, it's not working...or am I missing something.
(I do understand that Export XMP to File will write the data into the image file itself.)
Ideas?
Pete

Here's a sample xmp I created...in case it's wrong..but it was working in B4. <x:xmpmeta xmlns:x="adobe:ns:meta/" x:xmptk="Adobe XMP Toolkit 3.3-016, build -num-, -date-"> <rdf:RDF xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#"> <rdf:Description rdf:about="" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"> <dc:description> <rdf:Alt> <rdf:li xml:lang="x-default">: Geese at sunset. Finley National Wildlife Refuge, Oregon</rdf:li> </rdf:Alt> </dc:description> <dc:creator> <rdf:Seq> <rdf:li xml:lang="x-default">Peter K. Ziminski</rdf:li> </rdf:Seq> </dc:creator> <dc:rights> <rdf:Alt> <rdf:li xml:lang="x-default">Peter K. Ziminski</rdf:li> </rdf:Alt> </dc:rights> <dc:subject> <rdf:Bag> <rdf:li>Sunrises and Sunsets</rdf:li> <rdf:li>Birds</rdf:li> <rdf:li>Landscapes</rdf:li> <rdf:li>Animals</rdf:li> <rdf:li>Oregon</rdf:li> <rdf:li>Finley National Wildlife Refuge</rdf:li> </rdf:Bag> </dc:subject> </rdf:Description> <rdf:Description rdf:about="" xmlns:Iptc4xmpCore="http://iptc.org/std/Iptc4xmpCore/1.0/xmlns/"> <Iptc4xmpCore:Location>Finley National Wildlife Refuge, Oregon</Iptc4xmpCore:Location> </rdf:Description> </rdf:RDF> </x:xmpmeta>

How to import XMP metadata in pdf

Could you please explain me, how to import XMP metadata in pdf file through "Live Cycle ES"?

Yes, with LiveCycle ES (almost) all services can be invoked from any of the available endpoints (watch folder, EJB, WebService, etc).
In this case since the ImportXMP requires two input files (the PDF and the XMP) you will need to drop a directory containing both of your files into the watch folder (not the individual files). This is because several requests can be dropped into the watch folder at the same time and without the sub directories LiveCycle couldn't tell what XMP when with what PDF.
A com.adobe.idp.Document - AKA: Document - object is one of the common object types used across all LiveCycle products. When you deal with PDFs and many other binary file objects they are stored a Document object. It is more important that you know this when using Workbench, web services or the Java API.
You should have a look at the documentation at: http://livedocs.adobe.com/livecycle/8.2/programLC/programmer/help/001553.html

How to import XMP Metadata?

Could you please explain me, how to import XMP metadata in pdf file through "Live Cycle ES"?

> Please give any samples.
As I said, the samples are in the API Reference. All you have to do is look them up.

Synchronizing IPTC/IIM and XMP metadata in JPEG images

Excerpt of "IPTC Core Implementation Guidelines", section 2.2.1 available on http://www.iptc.org/IPTC4XMP/:
The basic functionality of this synchronising mechanism [between IPTC/IIM metadata in IRB and XMP metadata] is:
- To move metadata from the IRB to a new XMP packet in case an image file is opened with such an IRB but without an XMP packet. If the file is saved both the IRB and the XMP packet will be stored to the header section of this file.
- To move metadata from the XMP packet to a new IRB in case an image file is opened with an XMP packet but without an IRB. If the file is saved both the IRB and the XMP packet will be stored to the header section of this file.
- To update the metadata values of the IRB respectively the XMP packet from the newer source to the older destination. Which set is newer or older is detected by a hash value over each block of metadata. (More detailed information is available from Adobes XMP web pages at www.adobe.com/xmp and in the software development kits.)
I have checked for Adobe XMP web site and searched in "XMP Specification, January 2004" and I have not found explanations about this "hash value over each block of metadata" mechanism.
Moreover, it seems that it does not work regarding to the following simple experiment:
- 1. add metadata to a JPEG image using Photoshop CS (which adds both IPTC/IIM data in IRB and data in XMP)
- 2. edit these metadata using an "IPTC/IIM-only and non-XMP-aware" editor like IrfanView, XNView or any other one
- 3. go back to Photoshop CS which displays the "old" XMP metadata ignoring changes done previously using the IPTC-only editor.
Of course this experiment works using an "XMP-aware" editor like iView Media Pro or PixVue in step 2.
So it seems very easy to get images with IPTC/IIM and XMP metadata not synchronized when the image workflow uses different programs to edit metadata.
Am I missing or misunderstanding something ?
I have found a radical method stripping XMP metadata (in a step 2 bis...) using David Crowell's JStrip, see
http://davidcrowell.com/jStrip.aspx
Do you know any other best method to keep IPTC/IIM and XPM data synchronized when an image workflow uses different metadata editors and some of them are not XMP-aware ?
Patrick Peccatte
www.softexperience.com

Excerpt of "IPTC Core Implementation Guidelines", section 2.2.1 available on http://www.iptc.org/IPTC4XMP/:
The basic functionality of this synchronising mechanism [between IPTC/IIM metadata in IRB and XMP metadata] is:
- To move metadata from the IRB to a new XMP packet in case an image file is opened with such an IRB but without an XMP packet. If the file is saved both the IRB and the XMP packet will be stored to the header section of this file.
- To move metadata from the XMP packet to a new IRB in case an image file is opened with an XMP packet but without an IRB. If the file is saved both the IRB and the XMP packet will be stored to the header section of this file.
- To update the metadata values of the IRB respectively the XMP packet from the newer source to the older destination. Which set is newer or older is detected by a hash value over each block of metadata. (More detailed information is available from Adobes XMP web pages at www.adobe.com/xmp and in the software development kits.)
I have checked for Adobe XMP web site and searched in "XMP Specification, January 2004" and I have not found explanations about this "hash value over each block of metadata" mechanism.
Moreover, it seems that it does not work regarding to the following simple experiment:
- 1. add metadata to a JPEG image using Photoshop CS (which adds both IPTC/IIM data in IRB and data in XMP)
- 2. edit these metadata using an "IPTC/IIM-only and non-XMP-aware" editor like IrfanView, XNView or any other one
- 3. go back to Photoshop CS which displays the "old" XMP metadata ignoring changes done previously using the IPTC-only editor.
Of course this experiment works using an "XMP-aware" editor like iView Media Pro or PixVue in step 2.
So it seems very easy to get images with IPTC/IIM and XMP metadata not synchronized when the image workflow uses different programs to edit metadata.
Am I missing or misunderstanding something ?
I have found a radical method stripping XMP metadata (in a step 2 bis...) using David Crowell's JStrip, see
http://davidcrowell.com/jStrip.aspx
Do you know any other best method to keep IPTC/IIM and XPM data synchronized when an image workflow uses different metadata editors and some of them are not XMP-aware ?
Patrick Peccatte
www.softexperience.com

Crystal Generated PDFs with XMP Metadata attached to Image

Using Crystal Reports 11 with the .NET runtime. I'm adding images into my document. Those images have XMP metadata attached. However, when the final PDF is generated, I do not see that metadata in the resulting PDF. It seems Crystal Reports is stripping it. How can I get crystal reports to retain the metadata of that image in the resulting PDF document.
(When you open a PDF document in a text viewer, you can see the metadata of the image as well as the metadata for the PDF itself)
(Also I'm adding the image by using the insert image feature. Then I use format graphic to specify the path to that image.)

CR does not export the XMP Metadata into PDF at this time. Perhaps a great suggestion to post in the SAP Idea Place.
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??Setting XMP metadata in an image.....Possible with CF??

Hello All:
     Does anyone know if it is possible to write xmp or iptc data to an image using ColdFusion 8?
     I know you can get Exif and iptc data FROM an image but I want to save metadata back TO an image.
     Any Ideas, tutorials, examples?
Thanks in advance!
-Joe

Cool! Thanks Paul, I am checking it out now and it looks to be what I need.
I also found http://jempbox.org/ but it appears no one is working on the project and it did not seem complete.
There appears to also be a comercial Java Library from chilkatsoft.com however I would prefer to not have to pay of course.
-Joe

Importing XMP metadata

A newspaper client has given me XMP data with all the caption/metadata they need for a shoot. I can import this in Photo Mechanic but have not found a way to do this in LR.
I am using v 1.2 on Mac.
Many thanks
Adam

Handling Metadata is one of the things LR is still pretty weak at.
The short answer is No. Lightroom won't do that.
On the other hand you can Use photo mechanic to put the info into the pics and then import them into LR, or if they have already been imported into LR, use photo mechanic and then use synchronise to update the data in LR.

Can I automate the writing of XMP metadata into JPEG and TIFF files?

I have written an ASP.NET 3.5 website application on behalf of an annual international photographic competition. Entrants will be uploading digital photos in either JPEG or TIFF format. Ideally, I would write entrant identity and image title information into the XMP metadata for each image immediately after upload - but so far, I have failed to find any way to do this in ASP.NET.
Thousands of images are involved, so I need to find a way to automate the metadata insertion, perhaps with some sort of script that uses a text file (extracted from the SQL Server database on my website) as the source of the metadata for a batch of images. Is this the sort of task that can be done by writing a script for Bridge CS3? Are there any scripts already in existence that I could use? I am a total beginner in this area.
I use a Win XP PC, though I have a colleague who, I think, has CS3 on his Mac (running under the Leopard OS), so scripts for either platform might be usable.
David

You are the man X!
Ok here is another version with a check for the dll.
#target bridge
   if( BridgeTalk.appName == "bridge" ) {
addInfo = new MenuElement("command", "Update Entry Details", "at the end of Thumbnail");
addInfo .onSelect = function () {
     main();
function main(){
var csv = File.openDialog("Please select CSV file.","CSV File:*.csv");
if(csv != null){
loadXMPScript();
csv.open("r");
while(!csv.eof){
   strInputLine = csv.readln();
   if (strInputLine.length > 3) {
      strInputLine = strInputLine.replace(/\\/g,'/');
   inputArray = strInputLine.split(",");
   var csvFile = new File(inputArray[0]);
   var title = inputArray[1];
   var author = inputArray[2];
if(!csvFile.exists) {
alert(csvFile + " Does not exist"); //////////Check if file exists
return;
if(csvFile.exists){
var file = new Thumbnail(csvFile);
try{
var xmpFile = new XMPFile(file.path, XMPConst.UNKNOWN,XMPConst.OPEN_FOR_UPDATE);
}catch(e){
      alert("Problem opening xmp for update:-\r" + file.path +"\r" +e.message);
      return;
try{
var xmp = xmpFile.getXMP();
}catch(e){
      alert("Problem opening xmp data:-\r" + e.message);
      return;
xmp.deleteProperty(XMPConst.NS_DC, "creator");
xmp.deleteProperty(XMPConst.NS_DC, "title");
try{
xmp.appendArrayItem(XMPConst.NS_DC, "creator", author, 0,XMPConst.ARRAY_IS_ORDERED);
xmp.appendArrayItem(XMPConst.NS_DC, "title", title, 0,XMPConst.ARRAY_IS_ORDERED);
}catch(e){
      alert("Problem writing xmp data:-\r" + e.message);
      return;
if (xmpFile.canPutXMP(xmp)) {
xmpFile.putXMP(xmp);
}else{
alert("Can not write new metadata to " + csvFile.spec);
xmpFile.closeFile(XMPConst.CLOSE_UPDATE_SAFELY);
unloadXMPScript();
function loadXMPScript()
   var results = new XMPLibMsg("XMPScript Library already loaded", 0, false);
   if (!ExternalObject.AdobeXMPScript)
      try
         ExternalObject.AdobeXMPScript = new ExternalObject('lib:AdobeXMPScript');
         results.message = "XMPScript Library loaded";
      catch (e)
         alert("Could not load AdobeXMPScript \r" + e.message);
         results.message = "ERROR Loading AdobeXMPScript: " + e;
         results.line = e.line;
         results.error = true;
   return results;
function unloadXMPScript()
   var results = new XMPLibMsg("XMPScript Library not loaded", 0, false);
   if( ExternalObject.AdobeXMPScript )
      try
         ExternalObject.AdobeXMPScript.unload();
         ExternalObject.AdobeXMPScript = undefined;
         results.message = "XMPScript Library successfully unloaded";
      catch (e)
         results.message = "ERROR unloading AdobeXMPScript: " + e;
         results.line = e.line;
         results.error = true;
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Examples of web photo galleries that display xmp metadata

Hello, I am wondering if anyone knows of an online image gallery that displays xmp metadata for the images displayed?
Thanks,
Bob

Something you may want to consider is DBGallery (http://grrsystems.com/DBGallery). This product stores iptc/xmp data in a MySql database as well as in the image file (using Adobe's XMP Toolkit). Websites can access this data using any number of ways: PHP (google 'accessing mysql with php'), MS Access, and many others. Unfortunately right now there isn't an extremely easy means to access it directly from html like in the sample above: "< div class="content">DESCRIPTION: %FILEINFO% "; although finding someone to put together a little PHP to get close to this easy wouldn't be difficult (elance.com, etc).
DBGallery itself allows that data to be extracted and placed in emails and pdf's (see a sample at http://grrsystems.com/DBGallery/DBGallery_Sample.pdf). It also generates websites with Title and Description, but the websites are fairly basic I'm afraid (see
http://www.grrphotography.com/Collections/WorldPlaces/index.htm)
Dropping any images with iptc/xmp data into DBGallery gets their data into the database because the metadata is automatically read and added to the database.
If there are questions about this option reply here or email me at [email protected]
Best Regards,
Glenn Rogers
Designer of DBGallery: Photo DATAbase System
http://grrsystems.com/DBGallery

How to import XMP-MP metadata into organizer

I have a fairly large number of photos with face tag metadata. Since Adobe is part of the working group that developed the XMP metadata standard, imagine my surprise to find out that Photoshop Elements 11 doesn't use it!
Is there any external program you guys know about to import face tag metadata into the organizer? I used Windows Photo Gallery to do the face tagging and it properly writes the metadata to the XMP fields. Problem is the photoshop organizer doesn't read the XMP fields! It's using it's own standard(?)
We are talking thousands of photos here so re-tagging is just not an option. Is there a way to get photoshop to import the tags and regions?
Struggling User

I think most of us who deal with large amounts of photos usually have a multi-application approach to things. No one application does it all. I crossed the 10,000 image point some time back and the thought of face tagging all that again makes me more than a little queasy!
I looked at PSE 11's organizer and realized it was very close to what I want. I'm going to use PSE for pixel editing anyway so it looks like an ideal one-size-fits-all application. However, of course I now know PSE doesn't use tags in the same way as others. So it's just a deal breaker plain and simple.
Right now I use:
Photo Gallery (formerly Window Live Photo Gallery) for organization and face tagging and subject tagging
GeoSetter for location tagging by the way it recognizes the Microsoft face tag data so I can use the people tags to sort in that app too
ExifTool for metadata manipulation where needed (camera data or other interesting info)Also note the ExifToolGUI (no longer maintained also recognizes the Microsoft face tag metadata)
Photoshop Elements for pixel editing
I use the face tags as keyword tags so you get a double benifit. The big deal of course however is the face region tag. Having a picture of many people and a separate list of keywords isn't helpful. You only know that John Smith is in the photo somewhere but you don't know which person he is! Like you said however, it's not important to everyone.
I will keep researching this. I'm betting someone has written an app to extract one set of data and make it available to another app.

Problem with Bridge CS4 reading/editing XMP metadata added in Bridge CS6

Please excuse me if this is a dumb/obvious question. I did try searching the forums for similar problems and didn't find anything that seemed to speak to my issue.
I'm having a problem where Bridge CS4 won't read/edit xmp metadata (specifically, keywords and descriptions in the IPTC panel) that I have entered using CS6. it will read some files, not others. The files are all .mp4s. Of these files, I can read/edit IPTC panel metadata for some of them in Bridge CS4; I can add metadata for all of them in CS6. I see no particular pattern in these files to explain what is and isn't read/editable in CS4.
My question is whether this is a compatibility issue between different versions of CS (in this instance, CS4 and CS6). i know it's a tired refrain to blame software when it could easily be user error, in which case I'd be frankly delighted to know what i'm doing wrong. Please bear with me as I give a few more details.
I'm using macs. I've tried this on multiple systems - for instance, on a mac pro 3 which for some reason has both CS4 and CS6 installed, i can add and edit keywords using CS6, but not when using CS4. Again, in CS4, some .mp4 files read/edit, others do not.
Bridge CS4 blames the files and tells me that the selected file cannot store xmp metadata, and that the properties cannot be modified. To be specific, in the metadata panel it says "this property cannot be modified"; in the keyword panel, it says, "This file (zzz.mp4) cannot store xmp metadata. No changes will occur." This seems odd, because I'm able to add xmp metadata for the same files in CS6 on the same computer, and other computers. I know this problem would disappear if all our computers were using CS6 (or CC), but unfortunately that's not a possibility at the moment. Some of them only have CS4.
Computer details (not an exhaustive list, but two instances): mac pro 3.1 running snow leopard, 16GB memory; macbook pro 4.1 running snow leopard, 4GB memory; adobe bridge cs6 (5.0.0.399) and cs4 (3.0.0.464).
Things I have tried:
Permissions - the files are set to read/write for everyone. Given that I can add/edit metadata in CS6, it doesn't seem to be a permission issue.
Purging the cache - other users seem to have had problems adding metadata in Bridge CS4 where purging the cache for affected files solved the problem. Didn't work in this instance.
Upgrading all affected computers to CS6/CC is beyond my control. I need to figure out why CS4 won't let me read/add/edit xmp metadata, if only for the sake of understanding the broader implications for interoperability.
Any helpful suggestions would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Kevin

adobe bridge cs6 (5.0.0.399) and cs4 (3.0.0.464).
Without having experience with mp4 files and metadata my observation is that you certainly have not updated Bridge CS6 ( should be 5.0.2.4) and I believe also not the latest version of CS4, can't imaging this also stayed at .0.0 so first try to update both.
And if CS4 can read the data of some files it should be capable of reading them all. Be sure to have the files completely cached first, can take a while.
Other things to try in CS4 is refresh preferences (hold down option key while restarting Bridge and choose reset prefs).
And also check for hidden cache files using menu view/show hidden files. Sometimes those cache files can be troublesome between versions.
If purge cache did not work and reset prefs also failed consider to also delete Bridge plist file and Bridge cache file manual (from user library)

How do you import (or convert) XMP metadata into iPhoto '08?

Having recently made OS X my primary operating system, I switched from using Picasa/Windows Photo Gallery on Vista to catalogue my photos to iPhoto '08. However, the 7,000+ pictures I have all have XMP metadata tags. None of them show up in iPhoto '08 after import. Needless to say, I am not looking forward to having to retag 7,000+ pictures in iPhoto.
I know people in various forums, here and elsewhere, have said that iPhoto '08 does not do XMP at all. Is this true? Is there a workaround or plugin? I find it weird that XMP has been an open standard since May, and 6 months later, there isn't a plugin or solution, especially from Apple. Unless I am just daft and missing something obvious, which is entirely possible.
At any rate, I would really appreciate any help in me not having to retag over 7,000 pictures...thanks in advance!

mrbofus:
Do you still have the PC and the photos on it? If so you might look into the demo version of iView MediaPro and see it if can read those Picasa files and embed the metadata into the files like it can when reading an iPhoto library on the Mac platform. If it can, you'll be able to write the metadata to the files and bring them over again to the Mac and import into a new library. This is only speculation as I'm not conversant in Windows at all.
Do you Twango?
TIP: For insurance against the iPhoto database corruption that many users have experienced I recommend making a backup copy of the Library6.iPhoto database file and keep it current. If problems crop up where iPhoto suddenly can't see any photos or thinks there are no photos in the library, replacing the working Library6.iPhoto file with the backup will often get the library back. By keeping it current I mean backup after each import and/or any serious editing or work on books, slideshows, calendars, cards, etc. That insures that if a problem pops up and you do need to replace the database file, you'll retain all those efforts. It doesn't take long to make the backup and it's good insurance.
I've created an Automator workflow application (requires Tiger), iPhoto dB File Backup, that will copy the selected Library6.iPhoto file from your iPhoto Library folder to the Pictures folder, replacing any previous version of it. It's compatible with iPhoto 08 libraries and Leopard. iPhoto does not have to be closed to run the application, just idle. You can download it at Toad's Cellar. Be sure to read the Read Me pdf file.

Editing XMP metadata in Bridge for checked-out files?

Our custom connector does not implement the WRITE_XMP_METADATA Capability because we do not want to change the XMP of a file in our DAM system without checking in a new file version.
However, when a file is checked out through Adobe Drive, we would expect to be able to edit its XMP metadata in Bridge just like we can for local files.
It looks like this is still not possible with Adobe Drive 3, i.e. if your connector does not implement the WRITE_XMP_METADATA Capability you cannot edit XMP for checked out files either.
It seems weird that you can edit XMP metadata for checked out files with regular CS applications but not with Bridge. Is this something that is expected to be fixed in a future version?
Thanks

In our design, editing XMP data in Bridge and in regular CS applications is different, the former one will be routed to SetXMPHandler in you connector, in the latter case, CS applications take the normal file writting ways to embed XMP data in the file content.
The purpose of this design is to offer similar user experience for normal users when they edit XMP data for AD assets and local file assets, they don't need to check-out files first.
To address your issue, I think you can add some codes in SetXMPHandler to auto check-out files before real XMP operation, and check-in them before exiting the handler
We will consider to make some enhancements for this part, that's, to allow editng XMP data for the checked-out files in Br, in the next release, thanks for this advice.

How to import images edited in Capture NX-2 to Lightroom 3?

I've just started using Lightroom 3 and I'm thrilled with what it allows me to do. However, I have many thousands of images that were edited in Nikon Capture NX-2. Now I want to import them into Photoshop Lightroom 3 and use Lightroom as my workflow base. But when I import them none of my past edits are evident. How can I import them without throwing away those uncountable hours already spent getting the images the way I want them using Capture NX-2?

Ambaiman wrote:
... if I export them as TIFFs, do I lose any of the advantages of using NEFs...
Yes...nearly all of those advantages. TIFFs are "baked", NEFs are "raw". You can manipulate NEFs with changes like white balance and the method of demosaicing. You can't do that with TIFFs (or JPEGs) nearly as effectively.
Every raw converter (including the one in the camera) has its own settings and algorithms and those aren't directly transferable to another raw converter using different settings and algorithms.

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