Imported Illustrator type looks bad in Premiere.

I'm making title cards in Adobe Illustrator CS 4 and importing them into Premiere CS 4. When I render the movie, the type looks like crap. Is there something I can do in Illustrator or Premiere to improve the quality?
Thanks in advance for the help.
Jody Radzik

I use AI quite a bit for the creation of all sorts of Shapes in PS to be used in Pr. In PS, I always use these in an image set up to match my Pr Project, i.e. NTSC 720x480 PAR 0.9. These always look very good, when I Import them as .PSD's into Pr.
Exactly what workflow have you used between AI, PS and Pr? What are your Pr Project settings, and what are your image dimensions in PS? Can you attach an example of what is looking bad with your PS image containing AI material? Hint: you'll need to do a Save_As JPEG, but do keep the compression down (higher quality # in PS), and then use the little "camera" icon in the middle of the forum editing screen, NOT the Attach Files dialog box at the bottom.
Good luck,
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