Imported PAL VOB files are misinterpreted as 540 pixels high

I'm trying to import PAL VOB files into an FCP 5.0.4 sequence and though the import and playback goes well, the files are wrongly reported as being 720x540 instead of 720x576, leaving me with unusable footage because the interlaced PAL video is rendered with horizontal stripes of alternating interlaced/fused fields.
The only way to restore some degree of quality to the footage is to apply an anti-flicker filter at maximum strength, but it's a crummy solution considering the video height should have been properly interpreted in the first place.
Could someone please tell me how I can import these vob files with their proper dimensions?
Thanks for any help.
iMac G5 Mac OS X (10.4.7) FCP 5.0.4

download MPEG Streamclip
open the vob file in MPEG streamclip and use File > Export to Quicktime to convert it to DV PAL (or whatever codec you are using)
Compressor: Apple DV PAL
Quality: 85% (or higher)
Sound: Uncompressed
Frame Size: 720 X 576 (DV-PAL)
Field Dominance: Lower Field First
then click the "Make Movie: button
... import the coverted file into FCP

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