Importing Analog using Canon HV30

Sorry, I know there are many topics on this, and forums elsewhere. I am just having the hardest time getting some footage that is on an old JVC camcorder (VHS-C format) into my imovie. I have access to both iMovie 09 and 08. I have tried to follow the tips others have suggested but I must be doing something wrong.
Please, any help would be awesome.

If you want to do a good job, here is how.
Use the Canopus ADVC300. Audio and Video go in, FireWire comes out. It also comes with a nice Macintosh application that works flawlessly with iMovie 06 and iDVD 08/09 (I have used it a few times with iMovie 09).
The program that comes with the ADVC300 has some nice filters that can improve video and audio of the source material. The ADVC300 will take Audio and Video from any source and convert it to FireWire (iMovie will treat it like a camera).
http://www.canopus.com/products/ADVC300/index.php
I would use iMovie 06 with iDVD 08/09, why?
iMovie 08/09 uses 'single field processing' meaning every other horizontal line of the video is thrown out, which reduces the sharpness of the footage. iMovie 06 uses ALL of the image to form the video.
If your primary workflow is editing DV clips and making DVDs, iMovie '06 is better suited. Your movie will arrive at iDVD in DV format, which is an ideal match for making a DVD: same resolution, same pixels aspect ratio, and original quality. If you share your movie from iMovie '08 / 09, it gets re-rendered at 640x480 or less, and then iDVD upscales it back to 720x480. The end result is obviously not as good.
iMovie 06 and iDVD 08/09 is a "lossless" combination.

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Importing media using Canon HV30

Normally shoot in 1080i (Canon XH A1) and use my Sony GVHD 700 deck for importing. Decided to shoot a project in 720p to see how it looks (golf tournament) and of course can't use the Sony deck. Don't want to use the XH A1 as a player so am using my HV30. What happens is I will set up in and out points for say four clips (multi scenes). But two things occur. First it will automatically break the scenes into almost, but not always, a 'scene detection' mode. Also will get "can't find timecode error" some times but if I hit 'continue' (up to 2-3 times) it will go ahead and capture that scene.
So it's a bit of a time consuming hit and miss. Anyone have this same issue. Cable not an issue as it works fine with the Sony. And the HV 30 has less than three hours on it. Don't want to buy a second deck just to shoot 720p.
thanks in advance of any suggestions.

Correction to my post . . . was shooting in Canon's f30 format.

Using Canon HV30 in 30p mode - settings for FCE?

I'm a little confused about the best settings in FCE for capturing video shot in 30p mode on a Canon HV30. I know (from the manual) that the HV30 records the 30p video at 1080i specifications.
Should the Easy Setup be set for AIC 1080i60, or AIC 720p30 (I don't see an option for 1080p30)? I want my end result to be progressive, not interlaced. The movies will be burned on DVDs, for display on computers, regular TVs, and HD TVs.
Likewise, when I create a sequence, should I select AIC 1440x1080i60, or AIC 720p30?
FCE seems to gladly let me use any combination of these. If the answer is “it depends”, then what does it depend on?
Thanks.

coachwpb wrote:
I am just learning a lot of this stuff, but here's my 2 cents...
Yeah, I've been using FCE for a couple of months with my Elura 65 SD camcorder. I just got my HV30 last week, so I'm trying to wrap my brain around all the HD options.
I just bought the HV30 a few weeks ago. I set my Easy Setup to 1080i60 and it captures fine (remember, though, your capture screen will be different than regular DV capture. It will have no controls, just the screen and you press esc when you're done.)
I've noted that FCE often doesn't recognize ESC when I hit it. When that happens, I manually stop the camcorder, and the FCE thinks it's reached the end-of-tape, which has the same effect.
Once you import it, it will show as 1440x1080, even though you may have read stuff in the manual about 1920x1080. 1440 is what it captures at b/c that's how it is able to store it on miniDV tapes. This is a miniDV thing, not a FCE thing. (I spent a few days on that one!)
When working with it in FCE, you will see the sequence and captured video settings as 1440x1080 (I believe the sequence will be created from settings specified in the Easy Setup, so it'll be 1440x1080.) When you export it, however, you will see the info on the exported file as 1920x1080.
I do not think you are going to have a choice in shooting at 720p with the HV30, or at least I have personally not found a way to do that.
I was looking at the 720p option just because it was the only one that indicated Progressive.
I believe I've heard that one can use the 720p import option to reduce the capture file size, at the expense of some resolution (but it's still HD). Anyone have any comments on that?
In terms of all the destinations you're seeking for this video, saddle up, because you're in for quite a ride figuring out this HD stuff. It is not trivial. I am so frustrated at the moment with much of it that I'm likely to shoot in regular DV mode for a while until this stuff settles down into some easier (read: more commonly adopted) ways to work with HD video.
My final destination is a DVD via iDVD. It seems that just exporting as a QuickTime movie (not Using QuickTime Conversion...), selecting Audio and Video, and Include Chapter Markers (if I'm using them), produces a .mov file that drops right into iDVD. I also choose Make Movie Self-Contained, which results in large files, but I want to archive them and don't want them location-dependent.
My advise is to start playing around with it (using short clips!) and testing some stuff out, then posting specific questions to what you're trying to accomplish. These forums are amazing. And I just ordered Tom Wolsky's book on FCE 4 as he is a machine on these forums and I've read great things about the book.
That's what I've been doing.
And I'm also a Wolsky fanboy - I purchased his +Final Cut Express 4 Editing Workshop+ shortly after I started learning FCE, and that book has been very helpful. My main issue right now is coordinating the settings in my HV30 with the FCE settings.
Thanks for your comments and suggestions.
-Gordon

Quicktime - New Video Recording using Canon HV30 - Codec?

I'm using Quicktime Pro 7.4.1 with a Canon HV30 connected via firewire. In Quicktime preferences pane, the HV30 is the video source with "Device Native" as the Quality setting. Though, I can't see a preview in the Quicktime window while recording, it does appear to record footage. When I stop the recording, it says that I don't have the codec to view the footage and sends me to the Quicktime plug-in page on this site, but I have no idea what I need.
Considering some of the codecs (if not all of them) cost money, I'd rather not buy something that won't fix my problem. Anyone have any ideas?
EDIT: Oh yeah, the camera is set to HDV 1080i60 video standard. When I switch the camera to SDV, the Quicktime preview returns and everything works as expected.
Message was edited by: Robbie Schneider

a2043 wrote:
When I try to start a new video recording I receive the following error:
The operation couldn’t be completed. (OSStatus error -536870206.)
I am using Quicktime Pro on an iMac running Mac OS X 10.6.5. Quicktime will work with iSight but not with my PS3 eye (usb webcam). I am able to choose the PS3 eye from Quicktime preferences and the video screen will show up with video from the PS3 eye (so I know that Quicktime recognizes the cam). But the error dialogue box appears immediately.
Other information - I am using macam.component for Quicktime and the PS3 eye works perfectly with Macam.
Welcome to Discussions, a2043
Has anyone received this error before?
I have not, but I do not use PS3 eye. If it is a "UVC" (usb video class) device, it should work with any Mac running Mac OS X 10.4.9 or later _without additional software drivers_. Some unnecessary drivers can conflict with your Mac's software.
If desired, you can remove the file macam.component from /Library/QuickTime and restart Mac to see if the PS3 eye can work with QuickTime without the additional driver.
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Premiere Elements 10 - can't play back imported HD video (from Canon HV30) in Quicktime or FCP

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Read Bill Hunt on a file type as WRAPPER http://forums.adobe.com/thread/440037?tstart=0
What is a CODEC... a Primer http://forums.adobe.com/thread/546811?tstart=0
What CODEC is INSIDE that file? http://forums.adobe.com/thread/440037?tstart=0
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For PC http://www.headbands.com/gspot/ or http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en
For Mac http://mediainfo.massanti.com/

Can't Import HDV 24p with Canon HV30

So I have the common and very low budget Canon HV30 HDV Camcorder, which has the ability to shoot in 24p. The only options I have when importing footage from a tape in Pr are HDV or DV, even though the Sequence format is HDV 1080 24p. After importing, the clips are at the standard HDV 1080 60i instead. Is there a way to capture the footage with the correct frame rate, or do I have to do a pull down removal in After Effects? :(

"Not all of them offer a recording format that can do proper pulldown removal, though Josh. The Panasonic 24p mode is to be edited in a standard 30i preset. Only the 24pA mode offers a pulldown that can be properly removed for editing in a 24p preset."
Jim I know the difference between 24p and 24pa, sounds like Harm doesn't though explain it to him. All I was trying to get across is: Just because a dv tape can only record 60i doesn't mean you can get progressive frames from it.
I did a google search and there a ton of info about dv30 and 24p. The whole point of that camera is that it shoots 24p, it's cheap and a lot of indie people use it to shoot shorts and even features. There's whole websites about that camera because it can shoot 24p. Click below.
http://www.hv20.com/archive/index.php?f-32.html
http://www.hv20.com/forumdisplay.php?f=32&order=desc&page=25
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Canon HV30 1080i/30 import to imovie HD6 what do I select for " format"

Hello, i use the canon HV30. I connect to the computer via firewire, open imovie HD 6 and then 1. name new project, 2. save on desktop. 3. format--now in the drop down menu there are several choices. I chose 1080i for the format then I hit " import" when the single miniDV tape finished it took up 60gb of HD space.
One tape should not be 60gb.
what am i doing wrong?
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I have been learning a bit about Codecs and Apple has published a good explanation of why AIC is so data heavy. It does not temporally compress the video so that each frame is decoded separately and this creates a situation where the data size is 3 to 4 times as large as HDV. For this reason, it would make sense that the video is ~60GB per hour in AIC for high definition video.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2704?viewlocale=en_US

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I CAN connect my Canon DV30 to MS Movie Maker via firewire with no problems at all.
I've just bought Premiere Elements 13 but I CANNOT get it to recognise the camera, and cannot import any video :-(
Does anybody have any experience of using Premiere Elements and a Canon HV30?
I need help PLEASE!
Thx

Just found out DV capture has been removed from v13!
The workaround, as per the link (Adobe Premiere Elements 11 * Capture video), would then not play any sound - which I believe is another problem of v13 (No sound on playback with Premiere 13)
That's it for me. The software is going back to Amazon.
Premiere Elements 13 is not going to work for my DV capture!!!!!

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Ok, the issue seem to be solved. The problem was this:
The many hundred files (raw and xmp per image) have been downloaded by ftp in no specific order. Means - a couple of files in the download queue - both raw and xmps. Most of the time, the small xmp files have been finished loading first and hence the "last change date" of these xmp files was OLDER than the "last change date" of the raw file - Lightroom then seem to ignore the existence of the xmp file and does not read it during import.(a minute is enough to run into the problem)
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Interlaced frames after using Apple directions for Canon HV30 24p

I have an Canon HV30 HDV video camera and clips that have been recorded using its 24p mode. I'm using the instruction Apple has given to remedy this type of footage in Compressor and output to Pro Res:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2410?viewlocale=en_US
I've tried this method a couple of times and carefully also. Everything seems to work well other than the fact that I am getting interlaced frames on the last one or two frames of each clip. Sometimes it's the beginning of the clips. As they are supposed to, clips are changing to 24p and when I step through a clip frame by frame everything looks fine, except for those last couple frames. Other methods, like using JES Deinterlacer, do not produce these distorted interlaced frames. However I would prefer to use Compressor. Could it be that I changed some setting or preference in Compressor a while back that is affecting these clips right now?
Please help!
Once again, using Final Cut Studio 2 and a Canon HV30 with 24p clips.

Hello,
I experienced the same thing. But I feel that the first second or two of any clip is not useable, when
editing I have never needed every last frame.
This is not much of a help to you. I think it has to do with the mysteries of HDV, Long GOP, and 2 t0 3 pulldown and the complex post processing that must happen to yield 24 full frames.
Good luck, Tom

Best Settings using the new Canon HV30 and Final Cut Express HD v3.5.1?

My wife presents programs at schools and uses digital movies that we make and edit as one of her media materials. We want to present higher quality videos that look more film-like. I am hoping that the combination I described above will enable this improvement. In the past we used a Canon ZR20 and iMovie HD and put these on DVD's that were then played on a MacBook Pro with with QuickTime or iDVD hooked up to an Epson PowerLite projector.
I am now the proud owner of a new Canon HV30 and Final Cut Express HD3.5.1 (had FCE for a while so know how to use it). From my research, though, it looks like FCE will not be able to handle CINE MODE recording in combination with 24fps progressive frame rate [HDV(PF24)] which would allow the enhanced effect of the Cinema Mode. I can't justify the cost of Final Cut Studio 2 so I am hoping that the new [HDV(PF30)] will allow me to more easily edit in FCE.
Does anyone know if this is true and if so can please tell me the settings that I need both on the camera and in FCE to get the best quality movie that can played directly from my MacPro using QuickTime or iDVD or from a DVD in the MacPro using the iDVD player. I won't have the opportunity to always play the videos directly from the camera to an HDTV because of the school setting and the need to use a projector.
I know this is a lot to ask for, but I am sure that it will come up again and again as more people purchase this new camera. Thanks for your time.
Sincerely,
Lou Hosta

Without totally repeating myself with my post to MaccyLeopard, I haven't shot any footage yet. After doing a lot of reading I think I confused myself more than helped myself as far as settings go. So if you remember from my initial post I am asking for advice and guidance primarily on camera settings with the HV30 that will be used in a classroom (artroom) setting and then edited using FCE HD v3.5.1. I wish I was the type of person that could jump right into using a new piece of equipment but I like to get the advice of others beforehand. That way I'm not always questioning myself as to 'whether or not is this the best I can get'. I also am wondering if the 30fps frame mode would be the best to use in the classroom setting? From my reading, this mode should allow more light onto the tape allowing me to shoot in conditions with lower light levels that are typically found inside? Finally, is FCE HD able to edit this new 30 fps frame mode of the HD30? I've heard that FCE HD can't handle the 20 fps frame mode.
Thanks for taking the time to help me out.
Sincerely,
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Can not import clips from Canon HF100 to iMovie '08 & '09 using iMac

Hi Everyone,
Have a strange problem.
I have a Canon HF100 and iMovie '08 (before) & '09 (now) on both our machines
(MacPro & iMac).
When importing clips using the "import from Camera" we get an error message on the iMac but works great on the MacPro. Both system are using 10.5 and we tried it with iMovie '08 and '09.
When importing from other camera (not AVCHD) but AVI or motion JPEG it work ok.
Any Ideas?
Could it be the graphic cards?
BTW: we did a new reinstall on the iMac.
Thanks for the feedback and support - Mac user discussions are the best !!!
Jack

Hello All,
I have been attacking this problem for a few hours and I have found that if you turn off and or make all network items inactive the camera will immediately be recognized by iMovie.
Took a long time to figure this out. Not sure why this is happening but it has fixed my problem.
Before this fix I would intermently get the camera and its memory sticks in the usb slot to recognize in iMovie.
Now all is well and works every time as long as I turn off or make things inactive
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Importing footage from my canon hv30 video looks slow why?

Footage done in canon hv30 HD looks a bit slow audio is ok. I try putting case in none and it looks just a bit better. somebody?

This camera doesn't actually shoot 24fps. It shoots 24 over 60.
"You can change the camcorder's frame capture rate to 24p (recorded at 60i), which provides the appearance of the same frame rate as movie film." (From the Canon web site)
This means the tape is actually recording 29.97 with pulldown added to make up the difference.
Bottom line: the media is 29.97, what iMovie calls 30.

Connecting a Canon HV30 camcorder vai a thunderbolt port to a new imac

Hi all
I was using imovie 11 with my old imac (purchased Summer 2008) using the firewire connection to transfer DV/HDV video from my Canon HV30 camcorder (tape). I just bought a new 27 inch imac with the thunderbolt ports and now I am stuck as there is no firewire
The camcorder had a 4 pin firewire output so I have tried the following
Used the original camcorder cable (Firewire 400), converted to firewire 800 with an adapter and then used the Apple firewire to thunderbolt adapter
Used a cable that converted the 4 pin firewire to firewire 800 and then used the Apple firewire to thunderbolt adapter.
In each case, imovie is not seeing the camcorder.
I know that my camcorder is not listed as being supported by imovie but has worked fawlessly on my old machine running the same software and operation system (Mountain Lion)
Any ideas - thanks
Kevin

Hi epjustin,
What I said in the previous post (Oct 9 2013) works for me but I can try to explain in more detail if that helps.
Firstly. remove the battery or the ac power connection from the camcorder. - VERY IMPORTANT
Turn on the Imac and login
Attach a thunderbolt to firewire 800 adapter to the IMac thunderbolt port - you can get this from the Apple Store
Now attach a firewire 800 to firewire 400 adapter to the the end of the previous adapter. You should now have the appropriate firewire 400 connection so that you can attach the original firewire cable that came with the camcorder.
Now connect the camcorder cable to complete the connection between the camcorder and the computer
Now connect the power supply or the battery to the camcorder and turn on the camcorder. Set the camcorder up so that it exports through the cable as normal
You should now be able to detect the camcorder in imovie. If you can't see the camcorder in imovie, go into system report from about this mac and you should see an entry in the thunderbolt section relating to the connected camera.
As I mentioned above, turn on and disconnect the power from the camcorder before disconnecting the camcorder from the Imac or turning off the Imac
If you can't get things to work, you may want to try connecting the camcorder to another computer as there is a chance that the board is fried if it doesn't work
Please let me know if you need any further help
Kevin

Canon HV30 Question

Hello.
I just purchased a Canon HV30. I shot some sample footage in HDV. Then created an easy setup in FCP...HDV 1080i60 Firewire Basic (1440x1080). I captured the footage and placed the footage on the timeline..The footage however needs to be rendered...Is that how it works? All HDV footage needs to be rendered? Or do I have my sequence settings wrong? My sequence is set to 1140x1080 HD 16:9.
Thanks for your help.
Ian

#28 Having to render every clip in the timeline
Shane's Stock Answer #28: When I put a clip in the timline, I have to render it before it will play. Why?
Your clip settings MUST match your timeline settings. If you have DV/NTSC material, you need a DV/NTSC timeline. The frame rate, audio rate and dimensions (4:3, 16:9) all need to match exactly.
The most important thing you need to do is properly set up your project from the start. It is always advisable to use the Easy Setups. Here is an in-depth article on the topic:
http://www.kenstone.net/fcphomepage/settings_fcp_5balis.html
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