Importing HV20 24P footage

I imported 12 hours of 24P footage from the HV20 into Final Cut using the HDV 108024P preset before reading the instructions of how to make it "true 24P" that say that the footage needs to be imported as "HDV108060i".
Do I need to reimport all that footage to do the steps needed to make it real 24P?
Also, if I did not change it to real 24P and added it to a timeline that was 24P with A1 footage would the two look the same or would the HV20 footage have some issues?

Hello,
When you say imported, do you mean imported from a file, or captured from the tape?
When you say 24p footage, have you already done the reverse telecine process on it?
The camera shoots 24p, but stores it as 60i on the tape. When you capture, you end up with 60i data, with duplicate frames on a cadence (you can check this just by stepping through your video frame by frame and watch for duplicates)
You can take captured 24p video (which is contained in a 60i format) then use compressor to remove the extra frames. Then you can then place that clip in a 24p sequence and edit as you wish.
I would guess that when you say you "imported" 24p, you mean that you captured the HDV from the hv20 something you shot in 24p mode. FCP would have captured it as 60i video, so you probably don't need to re-capture it. Just place the entire capture onto a sequence, accept the format of the input, then send it to compressor to change (reverse telecine, aka removing the extra frames) the 60i sequence into a true 24p sequence. then you use this true 24p material in a new sequence that you can then trim and edit.
Ken

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