Importing logical and physical model from Sybase power designer/Erwin

Hello,
We have several models created in Sybase Power designer, logical and as a well as physical. Is there a way to directly import models into Oracle designer?
Thank you for your help.
Syed

Hi Syed,
ERwin has a facility to export to Designer 2000. Of course you're probably not using Designer 6.0 or earlier so it's of little use.
I have been looking at a couple of tools for importing from ERwin: Reischmann Informatiks TOOLBUS Interface for Oracle Designer and ALLFusion ERwin; and Meta Integration Technologys Meta Integration Model Bridge (MIMB). Neither product is free (nor inexpensive) but if you've got a number of models to convert then the tools seem cheap by comparison. Also, none of the products that I've looked at recreate the actual diagrams (not that I expected them to).
I am leaning towards TOOLBUS as it provides more complete migration of Logical and Physical models (especially the linkages between the models) using Oracle Designers API rather than a DAT file as provided by MIMB.
Hope this helps,
Wayne Lehman
Avanti Business Systems Inc.

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