Importing Motion projects in FCP

I am importing a motion project in to FCP, the motion project is a NTSC anamorfic project in 8 bit. When i import it into the FCP project witch matches the motion project, the render for ten seconds of video says it takes 1 hour. why does this render take so long, it DV video, the things in my motion project are only to CAMP FIRE partical Emiter and one tiff photo. WHY SUCH A LONG RENDER?

I encounter the same thing every now and then. And that is pretty much only with dv projects. The biggest factor I've seen is a graphic file that is much too high resolution. But often that is not the problem. At that point I export a quicktime and edit that into FCP. Sure it negates roundtripping but at that point it's usually just getting the job out the door.

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