Importing Raw Jpeg Pairs with Jpeg as Master

I give....I imported raw and jpeg as pairs since aperture updated for the D7000. I see the J on the badge. I assume they are stacked. I see where i can change the master to the raw file by right clicking. However, can't i just navigate to the raw file for adjustments or do I have to switch the master? I have looked at the manual. I have a book on aperture, I searched the board. I gotta be missing something really basic! Please help this stupid newbie. Is it better to import both as masters in the future? What do people prefer? tx
Message was edited by: Sheryl Kingstone

Hi Sheryl,
No, you aren't missing anything really basic. The RAW and JPG aren't really stacked. They are associated together in a different way that is only applicable for pulling JPG and RAW versions of the same photo out of your camera together.
If you can answer the following question, it might help the other users (and mybe you) help you.
Why is it a problem to have your RAW be the master?
With your hesitation to switch the master to the RAW, you imply to me that you would like Aperture to work with your JPG files, but at the same time it your question implies that you would like you want to work on your RAW file.
In my own preference, I struggled with what to start out with, RAW or JPG. I came to the conclusion that I didn't want to spend the time comparing RAW and JPG from my camera and deciding what to do. I no longer capture RAW+JPG in my camera.
Basically, post-processing the RAW file through Aperture gives you lots more information to work with, as the creation of a JPG in your camera throws out lots of colors and pixels. So, I had to balance things, why would I choose to take a "throwaway snapshot" with RAW if I knew it probably wouldn't be worth post-processing? For instance, all the pictures of my niece at the dinnertable in really bad light. I can't do anything worthwhile in post-processing with the sharp shadows, and the 5 different and ugly light sources, and the fact that she only looked at the camera once. Yeah, I can make it a little better, but not enough that it's worth post-processing to me. So, for those pictures, I just let my camera do the work and use the most basic, point-and-shoot settings most of the time. My camera produces JPG-only in the basic settings.
On the other hand, for those sunsets, gardens, forests, streams, vistas, etc, I probably would like to do a little post-processing if my exposure wasn't right to begin with. I decided that I would just let Aperture decode the RAW file for me and forget about the JPGs entirely. When I'm using my camera in manual mode (or one of the quasi-manual modes) I shoot in RAW only. Yes, my camera will do a better job rendering a JPG than Aperture will, but Aperture's very good and I figure I wouldn't be looking at the JPG from the camera if I'm doing other post-processing in Aperture.
That being said, there are many other opinions and othe reasons to choose one way or the other.
Hope that eas clear enough. I had lots of ideas to write about.
hope this helps,
nathan

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