Importing RAW + JPeg to LR4

Last evening I shot a family session in RAW + JPeg fine with a Nikon D700 and am importing that type of file for the first time on a new iMac with LR4. I'm copying and adding to the catalog. I could see the thumbnails from the card when it was inserted and preferences chosen, but I'm not seeing any thumbnails come up in the library, though the copy and import progress bar to the upper left of my screen shows that they are being imported. Is this normal, and if not, should I do something differently? Thank you.

The images are not importing to my hard drive. When the import is complete, it says that none of them were imported. They are not in the files on the hard drives. LR is updated, as are all of my apps on the computer. I have closed everything and restarted the computer, and still they will not download. Any other suggestions?

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LR 4 Not Importing RAW+JPEG

Here's a strange one.
Currently running Mac OS X 10.7.3, LR 3.6 installed as well as the 30-day demo of the release version of LR 4.0. Importing from a camera-formatted Sandisk 8GB Extreme Pro (45MB/sec)
Camera - Sony A77.
Problem - Importing RAW+JPEG using LR4 only imports the RAW, not the JPEG. I've already checked "Treat JPEGs as separate..." option in LR 4, yet when I pull up the import dialog about half the time I simply don't see the JPEGs next to my ARW files...only the ARW. All import sorting options are off.
I can then simultaneously open LR 3 and upon attempted import, I'm presented with all files just fine.
Back to LR4 again, still only the ARW, even after "quitting" the app and reopening.
It gets stranger, though - As I was typing this, I went ahead and tried to import again in LR4 and THIS time JPEGs are showing up along side RAW. I even double-checked to make sure I was using LR4's window and now LR 3.
Anyone else having this issue??

Bumping this thread because I'm also having the problem. LR4 on Lion 10.7.3, never used the LR4b release. Only the first 10-20 images come in as NEF+JPG and after that I get only JPGs. Just imported six 8GB cards without realizing the problem, since it never used to be one...
My workaround has been to manually transfer files off the card into the destination, and then 'Synchronize Folder..." in LR. The import dialoge that pops up has no problem showing all the files correctly, and they import without problems. This leads me to believe the bug has something to do with importing directly from the card or camera.
I understand any major new release is bound to have some bugs, but this, in conjunction with LR4 crashing any time I try to print, is making the newest release pretty useless for me. The Library and Print modules account for 85% of my time in LR, with the Develop module accounting for the rest (Maps/Books/Slideshows/Web are never opened, ever). In the most abstract sense, LR is made for streamlining the input and output of images, and neither of those processes are working for me.

Develop settings when importing RAW + jpeg

When importing NEF files from my D700 I apply the landscape sharpening pre-set and am happy with the results. However on my Fuji X20 I import RAW+jpeg rather than just RAW, in this situation if I use the landscape sharpening pre-set sharpening is applied to the jpeg as well as the RAW resulting in the already sharpened in camera jpeg being grossly over sharpened. If on the other hand I use none for the develop pr-set no sharpening or noise reduction is applied to the jpeg and a minimum amount applied to the RAW file, more or less what I want except I want the higher landscape sharpening applied to the RAW files. Is there anyway to modify the built in pre-sets so that they only get applied to the RAW files when importing RAW+jpeg pairs?
Dave Rosser

I believe the answer is No, you cannot apply a preset at Import time based on file type.
What you can do is after you import, filter on File Type and set it to JPG and apply another preset that changes the sharpening settings of the filtered set of files, then go back and turn off the filter and work with both sets of images as you want.
To filter by File Type, you need to go to Library Grid, enable the filter bar with the backslash \ key if necessary, then select Metadata, and either change one of the existing filter columns to say File Type or add a new File Type column.
Once you have created and applied the filter, you can save it as a filter preset that can be applied by the filter preset selector at the very right and just above the thumbnail strip at the bottom, even in Develop mode.
You might make one for raw and for jpg in case you want to swap between the two, and if you shoot JPGs with more than one camera model, you can add the camera model to the filter criteria.

Importing RAW+JPEG then deleting JPEG later?

I shoot RAW+JPEG, primarily because I can upload the JPEGs easily for family to see (lots of pictures of our toddler) and I can keep the RAWs around for more involved editing. Importing as RAW+JPEG w/ JPEGs as masters is great since I can tag, rate, etc before uploading, but once I've got the JPEGs online, I really have no need for them. So...
*What's the best way to get rid of JPEG masters (and obviously change the RAWs to masters) after I'm finished with them?*

Nikon, in its infinite wisdom, has elected not to share the encoding methods for any of its sensor data with third-party software companies, with the exception of white balance. As a result, the "first look" at any Nikon RAW file that's not opened in their own software is pretty bad (presets make it better, but still tend to fall short). That's not to say Nikon software is required to make a RAW look gorgeous, but the default rendering by Nikon software is pretty darn amazing given the complete lack of work needed. Since the JPEG's use these defaults, they're equally amazing. On the other hand, shooting RAW then exporting to JPEG in Aperture means vastly inferior shots "out of the box" since aperture can't decode anything but white balance. I could certainly make them better, but I really just want an "OK Mom, here're pictures of your grandson" solution that requires no additional time at the computer for me. Since the JPEGs are "perfect" to begin with, begin able to tag the photos, upload the JPEGs with keywords, etc intact, then delete them and save the RAWs for more involved work later, is ideal.
*So, how do I import RAW+JPEG and later delete the JPEGs and make the RAWs the new masters?*

I can't import RAW files in LR4.4?

Hi, i'm using LR4 updated to the latest version LR4.4, I tried to import my RAW pictures from my NIKON D3300 (.NEF) but I can't. it says the following;
'The files are not recognized by the raw format support in lightroom'. What does that mean? and how do I import those RAW files in LR4?
I can see the images preview, can't open them and can't import them. Help please?!

First, you don't have the latest version, and you need at least Lightroom 5.4 to open these photos.
If you don't want to upgrade (which costs money) to Lightroom 5.4, you can download the FREE Adobe DNG Converter (version 8.4 or later) and then use that software to convert your RAWs to DNG, and then import them into Lightroom 4.4.

Importing RAW+Jpeg, how to?

After shooting simultaneous RAW+Jpeg, I imported one RAW picture along with the corresponding Jpeg picture. LR now shows me only the RAW picture in the grid view, and indicates 1 under Library > Previous Import. I would expect it to also show me the Jpeg picture, and 2 under the count of imported pictures.
However, if I now direct LR to specifically import (again) the same JPeg file, LR refuses stating the file is already in the library; then I see that Already in Library displays the RAW file. H
ow can I direct LR to import both the RAW and the Jpeg file, and treat them as distinct (possibly stacked)?

ET-
 
 Yes, that's one way to do it; thanks for posting. For me, LR makes it easier to not shoot both, so I don't. My management is much easier, and I create JPEGs at will, always from the best original I can find... the RAW file.
 
 

 color="#600000" size="2">~~ John McWilliams
 
 
 
 MacBookPro 2 Ghz Intel Core Duo, G-5 Dual 1.8; Canon DSLRs

Lightroom Won't Import RAW+Jpeg

I took photos using Nikon D200 using the setting RAW+Jpeg. When I insert my memory card into the reader and tell it to import all photos, it only sees and imports the RAW. Looking the the CF card directly, I can see both jpeg and raw, but LR will only bring in the Raw..any reason for this? I unchecked check for duplicates to see if that mattered and it doesn't.

Shane-
 
 This is intentional behavior, lots don't like it, lots do. For me, personally, I never pull down JPEG copies with my RAW files from the camera, but this is not for everyone.
 There are workarounds, (search threads) but the simplest to to ditch the JPEGs and create them as needed from the adjusted RAW files.
 
 
John "McPhotoman"
 color="#800000" size="2">~~ John McWilliams
 
 
 
 MacBookPro 2 Ghz Intel Core Duo, G-5 Dual 1.8;
 Canon DSLRs

Importing raw + jpeg

I've never shot/saved in raw format but am going to give it a try. My camera allows me to save in both raw +jpeg. When I view this in Aperture I see a single image and that I can set either the raw or jpeg version as the master. What does this really mean? If I want to edit the raw file I set the raw as the master, and the same if I want to edit the jpeg - I set that as the master. Is that all it really means?

You can even hit Apple-A (select all) and then 'New Version from Master JPEG' to extract all the JPEGs and have them placed in stacks next to the RAW equivalents.
This is good for lots of my projects which were created before Aperture, where I've manipulated a RAW and saved as a JPEG and I now want to import that folder into Aperture. Of course, if I were processing that with Aperture, most of the JPEGS wouldn't exist as they are mostly crops, levels etc. so they'd just be Aperture versions.
What I would like to be able to do now, is to perform something similar when I have created the JPEG with a different name to the original RAW, by dragging the JPEG over the RAW or something, so that it recognises that the JPEG is also a version of a particular RAW, despite them having different names.

Importing Raw Jpeg Pairs with Jpeg as Master

I give....I imported raw and jpeg as pairs since aperture updated for the D7000. I see the J on the badge. I assume they are stacked. I see where i can change the master to the raw file by right clicking. However, can't i just navigate to the raw file for adjustments or do I have to switch the master? I have looked at the manual. I have a book on aperture, I searched the board. I gotta be missing something really basic! Please help this stupid newbie. Is it better to import both as masters in the future? What do people prefer? tx
Message was edited by: Sheryl Kingstone

Hi Sheryl,
No, you aren't missing anything really basic. The RAW and JPG aren't really stacked. They are associated together in a different way that is only applicable for pulling JPG and RAW versions of the same photo out of your camera together.
If you can answer the following question, it might help the other users (and mybe you) help you.
Why is it a problem to have your RAW be the master?
With your hesitation to switch the master to the RAW, you imply to me that you would like Aperture to work with your JPG files, but at the same time it your question implies that you would like you want to work on your RAW file.
In my own preference, I struggled with what to start out with, RAW or JPG. I came to the conclusion that I didn't want to spend the time comparing RAW and JPG from my camera and deciding what to do. I no longer capture RAW+JPG in my camera.
Basically, post-processing the RAW file through Aperture gives you lots more information to work with, as the creation of a JPG in your camera throws out lots of colors and pixels. So, I had to balance things, why would I choose to take a "throwaway snapshot" with RAW if I knew it probably wouldn't be worth post-processing? For instance, all the pictures of my niece at the dinnertable in really bad light. I can't do anything worthwhile in post-processing with the sharp shadows, and the 5 different and ugly light sources, and the fact that she only looked at the camera once. Yeah, I can make it a little better, but not enough that it's worth post-processing to me. So, for those pictures, I just let my camera do the work and use the most basic, point-and-shoot settings most of the time. My camera produces JPG-only in the basic settings.
On the other hand, for those sunsets, gardens, forests, streams, vistas, etc, I probably would like to do a little post-processing if my exposure wasn't right to begin with. I decided that I would just let Aperture decode the RAW file for me and forget about the JPGs entirely. When I'm using my camera in manual mode (or one of the quasi-manual modes) I shoot in RAW only. Yes, my camera will do a better job rendering a JPG than Aperture will, but Aperture's very good and I figure I wouldn't be looking at the JPG from the camera if I'm doing other post-processing in Aperture.
That being said, there are many other opinions and othe reasons to choose one way or the other.
Hope that eas clear enough. I had lots of ideas to write about.
hope this helps,
nathan

Import RAW+JPEG to different folders

I have been playing around and can't find the answer I need, please help...
I shoot photos in RAW+JPEG and, therefore, have two files for each image in folders on my memory cards. I now have AutoImporter set to automatically import all files form the card to a subfolder within Pictures called Auto Import. I would like to add a folder action or script of some sort on Auto Import that would take the JPEGs and move them to a different folder automatically after import (addition to this folder.
My goal here is to split the RAW from JPEG into separate folders so that I can have Time Machine and iDisk back up just the JPEGs, leaving the RAW only for editing in Aperture.
I am pretty new to Mac and not very familiar with scripts or folder actions but I can muddle through. I looked around Automator but could not see any action that might work.
Thanks for any help.

Hopefully, I'm not hijacking this thread but I've been asking friends who use Aperture this question and not getting answers.
I shoot the NEF (RAW) + JPEG option on my Nikon D300. I used to shoot straight RAW for years but my wife, who is a scrapbooker, was getting annoyed at how difficult it was for her to get JPEG versions of the pictures she wants to print for her projects. I also like to put photo-intensive trip reports up on my blog about our trips to Disney theme parks (my hobby is shooting pictures at Disney Theme parks). I found it a nice side benefit to be able to just grab the JPEG and upload since the quality wasn't as important since it was a small picture anyway.
Well, after shooting a few TB of pictures, it has gotten IMPOSSIBLE to keep track of my photos using a file structure as my organizational method.
So, a few of my friends convinced me to go Mac and go Aperture. I haven't installed Aperture yet not imported any photos yet using iPhoto and went straight to the Nikon Transfer software as I tried to determine whether to go Aperture of some other package.
I've now decided to use Aperture, but I still have the overall problem of what to do with my JPEG + RAW. I want to keep both but with them both imported into the current folder with Nikon Transfer and possibly the same behavior with Aperture doing the importing, that won't work with all those duplicates.
I know you all were asking the original poster WHY they were wanting both when it's so easy to get a JPEG out of Aperture. So, for me it's just simply because it's easier for my wife to get her pictures if I don't have to teach her how to use the software or I have to stop what I'm doing to export them out for her.
What suggestions do the experts on here have for the scenerio I face. I really am a clean slate except for the few hundred pictures I imported to free up card space on my last trip in May. But, I now have a stack of card needing importing and need guidance on methodology

Not importing JPEGs in case of "RAW+JPEGs" files

When I import "Raws+Jpegs" from me card in to Lightroom, can I avoid importing ther JPEG's that come with the Raws, and for which I have no need?

Jimburgess suggests the following options for avoiding/eliminating JPEGs from RAW/JPEGs:
1) The obvious way to avoid importing them is to set your camera to produce RAW files only, if it's capable of doing that. I JUST PURCHASED THE SONY A700 AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER ZOOMING ON ITS LCD WILL BE POSSIBLE WHEN I SHOOT IN RAW ONLY? IF YES? THIS WOULD SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
2)Copy your images from the card to the hard disk, delete the JPEGs, then do the LR import of the RAW files AND 2) Make sure "Treat JPEG files..." is checked in LR preferences, import the RAW + JPEGs, then delete the JPEGs from LR and the disk, isolating them using filter on file type or sort by filetype.
I AIM AT IMPORTING MY RAWs IN LR IN A STRAITHFORWARD SIMPLE WAY: DIRECTLY FROM CARD INTO LR, WITH DNG CONVERSION AND BACK UP TO EXT. HD. SOLUTIONS 2&3 ARE TOO LABOUR INTENSIVE AND CAN CAUSE ALL KINDS OF MISTAKES.

Yosemite Photos not importing Nikon D40 RAW+JPEG

I tried to import RAW+JPEG photo sets from an SD card of a Nikon D40 and my first impression was that the photos were imported, they appeared on the Last Import album but then I noticed these issues:
1. I was not able to edit the photo
2. I was not able to select the RAW file to edit it
3. When tried to import from Facebook, the Finder interface was not able to located the imported photo even though it appear on Photos app
I thought that the issue was related to the SD card so I connected the D40 via USB and imported again. Nothing different happen, the same 3 issues.
My workaround was this:
1. Insert the SD Card in the slot
2. Open Finder
3. Navigate through the folders to locate the NEF file (RAW file)
4. Copy the file to the Desktop
4. Open Photos
5. Import the NEF file from the Desktop
Edit was succesful and Facebook was able to upload it.
Equipment:
Nikon D40 + SanDisk 4GB Ultra II
MacBook Pro (13-inch, Early 2011)
     Processor 2.3 GHz Intel Core i5
     Memory 4 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
     Graphics Intel HD Graphics 3000 384 MB
OS X Yosemite 10.10.3

That is what Apple's RAW support page says, so you can do nothing about it:
OS X Yosemite: Supported digital camera RAW formats - Apple Support
See the footnote at
Nikon D4S†
Nikon D810†
Notes
†Nikon RAW L format only.

Importing from D20 Raw + Jpeg is not "hiding" the jpeg. Why?

Unlike EVERYWHERE else I read, when I import RAW + Jpeg images Aperture is displaying both on the screen, side by side. I would MUCH prefer if it would do like I keep hearing about--just display the RAW file. Is there a preference menu item I missed or any other tip to help me?

d90user1 wrote:
Thanks to all.
@rob: Your plugin is a good option. I will experiment with it.
You're welcome, and thank you too. With a little more help from the SDK I could have made it better, but I did the best I could under the circumstances - please let me know outside the forum how your experimentation goes.. - thanks.
d90user1 wrote:
recently I had the feeling that sometimes the undeveloped JPEG can help as a reference to the "originally" intended shot.
If you can't create jpegs in Lightroom that are superior to your camera, then you're not there yet. How would you know if you don't compare them?
Just a word of "caution": what's most familiar often seems best. I had that problem when PV2012 was first introduced - I would re-edit an old PV2010 photo and compare, and liked PV2010 version better - very frustrating, until:
* I got better at editing in PV2012, and
* I weaned myself from aspects of PV2010 that I'd come to prefer, and learned to appreciate PV2012 differences.
Similarly, if you've gotten used to certain characteristics of in-camera jpegs, they may seem superior to Lr, at least for a while.. hint: try different camera calibration profiles - sometimes one or the other is better (and they can be very different, or very similar..), depending.. - after a while, consider creating your own profiles.
Cheers,
Rob

IPhoto '11 and RAW/JPEG handling (good/bad) ?

I've upgraded to iPhoto '11 and discovered (don't know if it's a new feature) that iPhoto handles RAW extremely well. I can view RAW files and edit etc in a smooth manner - which is great.
Actually it's so great that i've started shooting photos in RAW only (so i don't get duplicates in iPhoto when importing RAW/JPEG) - but is it a good idea to shoot/import RAW in iPhoto only? (and skip the JPEG file).
If it's better to shoot/import both RAW and JPEG, how do you guys handle the identical pictures (RAW/JPEG) in iPhoto?
Finally, if i only have RAW in iPhoto, how do i 'export' the RAW picture? If i drag and drop the picture to desktop, RAW is automatically converted to JPEG (which is great in 99% of the times).
Hope to hear some of you guys ideas regarding this subject.

When you import a Raw to iPhoto it automatically creates a jepg preview of the file. Why? Because you cannot do anything with a Raw: you cannot print it, use it a slideshow and so on. However, with this preview you can work with the photo immediately.
Shooting in Raw+Jpeg is a bit pointless as you have this automatic preview anyway.
if i only have RAW in iPhoto, how do i 'export' the RAW picture?
File -> Export and set the Kind to Original
Dragging to the Desktop accesses only the latest version of the photo.
Regards
TD

Any reason to use RAW+JPEG?

I'm curious as to the benefit to importing RAW+JPEG masters. With the support Aperture has for RAW, JPEG doesn't seem really necessary. I use a DMC-L1 and can't disable the JPEG, but I could separate them before importing. Can anyone come up with a reason to import the JPEG masters? In my case I've compared the EXIF data and there are no differences that I can see.
As for dealing with my library, after searching the archive it's clear there's no simple way to delete the JPEG masters.

I do shoot both, but I am re-thinking that now that I use Aperture. The reason that I shot both was to give me a reference image for colour and exposure, so that my RAW conversion would be similar to the jpeg image (if that was what I wanted). Also the jpeg could be used for web and email, with minimum effort on my part. The jpeg also showed how close I was in getting the exposure right in the first place. Now that I am using Aperture, I have not looked at the jpegs at all. Roger
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