Importing via Firewire question

New to the video thing. Does it make a difference in quality if you import via firewire cable directly connected to the computer versus daisy chained through another firewire device?
Thanks.

donny wrote:
New to the video thing. Does it make a difference in quality if you import via firewire cable directly connected to the computer versus daisy chained through another firewire device?
no.
.. some devices don't 'allow' daisy chaining, we read reports, Canon has some camcorders which don't import at all when other devices are at the fw-port..
but it has no effect on quality.. digital is digital ..

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Message was edited by: baeumer

Don't think this is possible.
You're better off using a DAC (for example the one made by Canopus) and put your DV in and get a compatible signal out the other end for connection to your monitor.
I don't understand why you would want to go through a computer first, it would be a waste of time and add a huge delay to the signal.
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