Importing VOBs -- no audio?

I'm trying to import VOBs from a DVD (actually, I trim it first with MPEG Streamclip and do a "save as" to avoid re-encoding the video) and while they are able to be imported, none of them have audio.
I've read around the net that this is expected behavior and the suggested solution is to do exactly what I'm trying to avoid -- re-encode the video. I'm concerned about a loss of quality but mainly I'm concerned about the amount of time it would take -- there's lots of footage and a looming deadline.
Can anyone suggest a quick way to get DVD footage in to FCE quickly and cleanly? Does FCP or Premiere have better support for this sort of thing?
And before anyone comments, there is no copyright infringement going on here.
Thank you for any suggestions.

I think you have no choice: FCE cannot work with MPEG2 (VOB files) but only with DV-NTSC or PAL (or AIC for HDV).
So you have to convert the video for example using MPEG Streamclip: open the VOB file and then Export to QuickTime (cmd-E - NOT Export to DV!) with Compression: Apple DV-PAL (or Apple DV-DVCPRO/NTSC), Quality: 100%, fps: 25 for PAL or 29,97 for NTSC, Audio: uncompressed, Stereo, 48 KHz.
When imported to FC, the resulting .mov will not require video nor audio rendering.
As far as I know there is no relevant loss of quality with this process, even though the DV movie cannot be better than the original VOB.
Piero

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If you have not already done so, update to the latest (just released) version 9.0.4 - this update includes fixes for saving audio adjustments. Hopefully, it will fix your problem!
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PS See this thread: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2645652?start=0&tstart=0
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PE3 - Audio & Video out of synch on imported VOB files

I have tried adding some footage imported from DVD & is saved in a folder on the PC (by the PE process).
The file is stored as VOB 1 & VOB 2. When I import this file into the PE project the first half plays OK. When it plays onto the second file, the audio is lagging behind the video by a considerable amount.
If I view the file separately (where it is stored) with Windows Media Player, it plays back fine.
When I view the file in PE in the preview window, the out of synch fault occurs.
Something is happening in the import process to the PE project.
Anyone, have any ideas on the problem?

Here is a reply that I posted to a past thread that will give you options for fixing the Out-of-Sync issues when trying to use VOB files within PE.
In all cases it is better to not import VOB directly to PE, but convert to DV-AVI via one of these methods and then use the AVI format.
The last bullet below sends you to a Muvipix link describing how to combine multiple VOB's from one disc to a single file, this will cure the Sync problem, then convert this file to DV-AVI for import to PE:
I take the min-DVD directly from camcorder to my PC, and capture the disk via Power Director.
PD will convert the VOB's directly to DV-AVI Type 2 on one pass.
I then load this DV-AVI into PE7.
(PD v7 was pre-installed on my new PC from HP, or it can be purchased from Cyberlink).
Other options to try:
Copy the VOB's directly from the mini-DVD to your PC and use Prism to convert these to AVI.
Prism is a free convert utility and can be found here:
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/415317?tstart=0
Or load the VOB or Mpeg into PE, then use that to convert to AVI.
(Export to DV-AVI with PE8 is done with SHARE/PC, not Export under the File Menu, which is greyed out).
I've had many issues trying to work with Mpeg's and VOB's when loaded directly to PE with limited success.
So if you can get it converted successfully to AVI outside of PE, I've found this to be a better approach.
Post results, if any of this works for you...
Note: One other thing, if you are working directly with VOB's to PE, especially multiple VOB's from a single DVD, you can encounter out-of-sync issues between video and audio. If this occurs, review this link from Muvipix:
http://muvipix.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=2469:

Import VOB file ok, export shaky

I am using Adobe Premiere CS5, works fine.
Now I am trying to reedit old home videos so I imported VOB files from my burned DVDs. 4:3 ratio movies, I expand these so I have full widescreen (16:9) view.
Video and audio seem to be all right.
However when I try to export the new file (to 16:9), horizontal movements are not ok, the persons or objects which move horizontally (quickly) are not ok, the outlines are weird.
So within Adobe Premiere there is no problem, but after exporting the file (AVI), it just doesn't look right on the TV.

VOB files are highly compressed... a DV AVI file is about 13Gig per hour, a VOB of that same hour compressed to fit on a DVD
When you edit a VOB and then export, you are adding a second compression... so your results are not going to be all that great
It may help to read Bill Hunt on editing a VOB/MPG file http://forums.adobe.com/thread/464549

Importing VOB files into PP CS3

I have looked at numerous forum notes on this problem with PP and I've about come to the conclusion that the easiest thing might be to just buy a copy of Premiere Elements. I understand Premiere Elements will import VOBs and convert them to AVI. Some of the other solutions require several pieces of software, multiple steps, etc sometimes with limited successs.
My most recent attempt (just renaming the VOB file to MPG) resulted in good quality video with no audio. Is the primary reason for loss of audio the AC3 Dolby? Will copying the ad2mcac3dec.dll file from the Encore CS3 directory to the PP CS3 root directory really solve that problem? Is that it? That would be nice but somehow I'm a little skeptical. Are there other reasons for losing the audio when you just rename the VOB file to MPG?

See also:
FAQ: How do I import VOB files / edit a DVD?
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Importing VOB Files

I am able to import VOB files, however footage gets removed (i.e. computer's dvd drive plays the entire piece, but is almost cut in half time-wise when imported) and the audio is slightly not in-synch.
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N
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Also, read...
Read Bill Hunt on editing a VOB/MPG file http://forums.adobe.com/thread/464549?tstart=0
Edit Vob http://premierepro.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ:How_do_I_import_VOB_files_/_edit_a_DVD%3F

Vob file audio problem....what the heck.

whenever i import a vob file for some reason it plays audio from a past imported vob file instead of the audio that belongs to the video i just imported.....what can i do to fix this its freaking annoying!

Are the .vob source files in unique folders, or all together? As .vob files from a DVD always follow the same naming convention, quite likely that your two .vob files have the same name and that is confusing Premiere. Perhaps go into Windows and change the name of the .vob file and re-import again, what happens then?
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Can you please help with importing CDs and audio books?

I tried to search for this topic, but had no luck.
Have been happy with IPOD until today. On trying to import a new audio book to iTunes and then updating IPOD to install on it, I can see the title in both the iTunes Library and menu of IPOD. However, instead of seeing a normal 57:32 (or similar stop time), I am seeing 789:57:13.152. When I try to play it through iTunes or IPOD, it skips it as if it wasn't there and plays something else. I checked out importing a music CD, and find the same problem.
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However, instead of seeing a normal 57:32 (or similar stop time), I am seeing 789:57:13.152. When I try to play it through iTunes or IPOD, it skips it as if it wasn't there and plays something else. I checked out importing a music CD, and find the same problem.
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Thanks for the reply.
The link to your prior thread is
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