Improperly disconnected firewire drive

my firewire got improperly disconnected, and now the computer is not recognizing it, not even in system profiler. i tried restarting, drive and computer both, plugging it on before/after it was turned on, and none of these things helped. is there anything else that i can try?
(i also put this question in the 'using mac os x tiger' forum; i wasn't exactly sure where it should go.)

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http://www.macmaps.com/firewirebug2.html
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http://blog.fosketts.net/2010/08/11/time-machine-completed-verification-backups- improve-reliability-time-machine-create-backup/
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Time Machine: About "Time Machine completed a verification of your backups. To improve reliability, Time Machine must create a new backup for you."...
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