In compatible upgrades CS5 and Camera Raw 7.4

Hi,
I have been shooting with my Nikon D 200 and processing my RAw files thru Adobe camera Raw 6.0 and finishing them in CS5. Just got my Nikon D7100 which is not compatable with Camera Raw 6.0 but is compatible with 7.4 but 7.4 is not compatible with CS5??
I have light room 4 but like CS 5 much better. How can I get Abodobe Camera raw 7.4 if I convert from Raw in that can I bring my image back to CS 5??
What tcan I do to resolve this dilemma
Thanks!

You can get Camera Raw 7.4 by upgrading to Photoshop CS6. It's that simple. The last version of Camera Raw for Photoshop CS5 is version 6.7. You could download the DNG converter version 7.4 and create digital negative copies of your NEF files. Those DNG files will have all of the original raw data in them and you will be able to open those files with Photoshop CS5. But if you are using Lightroom, it has all of the same adjustments that are in Camera Raw. Lightroom will create a TIF or PSD file that contains all of your Lightroom adjustments, and send that file to Photoshop. It's what a lot of people do when they don't have current versions of both Photoshop and Lightroom. It's what I will be doing when Photoshop CS7 is finally released and I can't get any more Camera Raw updates.

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repeat
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00:49:58.72 CreateFile B
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