In Mail 10.5 (10540) MY "sent" folder continually spins

I.m using OS 10.6.7, Mail Software 4.5 (1084). My "Sent" folder continually "spins" without downloading the contents.
WHAT GIVES?

I'm new here so you'll have to bear with me if my explanation needs work!
I suspect that your problem may be that your Mac is storing the sent stuff on the local folder (probably hapening with junk and trash too???) If this is the case then...
Make sure you have the correct IMAP path prefix - entered in Mail Preferences > Accounts > Advanced - I believe that the prefix you need is Gmail
Quit Mail so it doesn't interfere with what you're doing,
Open ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.mail.plist with the Property List Editor
Take a back up copy (I saved mine to desk top) of com.apple.mail.plist
Look for the key named MailAccounts and click the arrow to expand it
you should see all your accounts indexed as 0, 1, 2, etx
Find your IMAP accounts (check that the key AccountType is IMAPAccount)
Find the key SentMessagesMailboxName and change it to Gmail/Sent (substitute INBOX for IMAP Path Prefix if incorrect)
Find the key TrashMailboxName and change it to Gmail/Trash
I think I had to do the same with junk too
Hope that is of some use or at least makes enough sense :-)

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Is there any way to have Mail automatically use our default "Sent" folder?

We are a small college, with a fair number of users who use Macs and iOS devices, and we run an IMAP mail server. By default, our accounts are configured with Sent, Trash, Drafts, and Junk folders. Apple's Mail.app insists on "Sent Messages" and "Deleted Messages" rather than "Sent" and "Trash".
We instruct our users to use the menu command Mailbox > Use This Mailbox For > commands to select our server's folders on their desktops, and on iOS to use the Settings > Mail > Account > Advanced, but this is tedious and annoying. Most users get it about half right, so that some devices use our default "Sent", and some use "Sent Messages". (This happens with Trash as well, but most users are not concerned if their Trash differs device to device.)
Is there any server setting that can hint to Mail.app that it should use "Sent" rather than "Sent Messages"?
Apple has a support document about this issue, "Mountain Lion Mail: If messages aren't stored where expected on the server" ( http://support.apple.com/kb/PH11810 ).
However, that doc (and the similar one for Snow Leopard) merely says, "When Mail stores messages on the server, it looks for specific mailboxes, by name, in which to put the messages. If Mail doesn’t find those mailboxes on the server, it tries to create them on the server or, failing that, on your Mac."
The document does not specify what the "specific mailboxes" are, and certainly does not suggest that there is any way to have it cooperate better with our server, but perhaps there is a way?
(If I was trying to be a good IMAP client, I might look for any of "Sent", "Sent Messages", or "Sent Items", and use what I found before going to the next step of creating my own folder. Hard to imagine that any IMAP account would be initially configured without some "Sent" folder, so why not try to discover what the user has before pig-headly making your own.)

Unfortunately, I have not found a consise way to explain this to the general user, just a huge wall of text to work around something that Apple got wrong the first time they created an IMAP client, and has stubbornly persited with. Here's our documentation for this silly problem:
Special Folders on IMAP
The basic idea is that all IMAP mail programs keep all your mail on our server, so that, e.g. when you read or reply to a message, all of your devices can then show that message as read and replied to.
By convention, each IMAP program treats a few folders on the server as "Special", such as a "Trash" folder, that deleted messages get moved to, and a "Sent" folder, where each message you send gets copied. When they all pick the same special folders, all of your devices will show the same view of your mail. However, if different devices use different server folders for their "special" Sent folder, then the mail from these two devices will wind up in two different places, and be harder to find.
Unfortunately, Apple's Mail programs are particularly obscure and obtuse in the way they treat these folders: They show their special Sent and Trash folders on screen with the obvious names "Sent" and "Trash", but secretly, under the covers, they insist on using folders named, "Sent Messages" and "Deleted Messages" instead. Even if the server already has perfectly usable "Sent" and "Trash" folders, Apple clients will ignore them and create their own special case "special" folders.
If you only ever use Apple devices to look at your IMAP mail, you might never even notice their deception. But, if you sometimes use another mail client, such as webmail, you will encounter the confusing truth: When we created your account for the very first time, we add a "Sent" folder (actually named "Sent") and a Trash folder, named "Trash", and this is what everything except Apple's mail will use by default, because those folders are already their the first time the client connects to your account. However, even though Apple shows your special sent folder at the top of the list, with a paper-airplane icon, and labels it "Sent", in fact they ignore the existing "Sent" folder and make and use their own "Sent Messages."
SO, if you send some mail from webmail, it will be in your actual "Sent" folder, whereas if you send it from an Apple mail program, it will be put into your "Sent Messages" folder. If you look into either "Sent" special folder, you'll only find part of your previously sent mail.
Similarly for Trash, though most users find it more problematic to have two different Sent collections than to have multiple trash buckets.
To unify things, you can either set your non-Apple mail programs to use "Sent Messages" and "Deleted Items"; OR, you can set all of your Apple devices to use "Sent" and "Trash". Doesn't really matter which way you go, though if a majority of your devices are doing it a particular way, you should change the non-matching devices to agree with the majority.
(All clear so far? Why did Apple make this so hard? It would have been utterly simple for them to check for an existing "Sent" folder, and to use one if there is one, rather than to always stubbornly create and use a new "Sent Messages" folder. Then, they add to the problem by pretending that their new "Sent Messages" folder is really just named "Sent". Stupidity all the way down.)
Anyways, to find out what the majority of your devices are doing, check them each to see which of the "sent" folders shows up in the "normal" list of folders rather than in the "special" location, that is, what folder name is in the list at the bottom of the folder area, rather than up at the special "Sent" icon, (because the special one will always be labeled "Sent", not matter what the actual folder name is).
For example, say that on all-but-one of your mail setups, you see a "Sent Messages" folder down in the normal list, and on the other device, you see "Sent" down in the normal list.
In that case, you'd want to set the "different" device to make the folder named "Sent" be the special one, instead of the "Sent Messages" that it was currently using.
Conversely, if all but one showed "Sent" down in the regular folder area, and only one showed "Sent Messages", then you'd want to make "Sent Messages" the special folder on the odd device.
Once you have decided, see the specific sections below for the procedure to set the "special" folders for Apple's Mail.app on a Mac, Apple's Mail on an iPhone/Pad/Pod, or for RoundCube webmail, or for Thunderbird.
Once you have every device using the same sent folder, then you can move any messages from the "extra" version of the folder into your special folder, and then you can delete the extra folder. (If you delete this extra folder and it later re-appears, then it means one of your mail programs is still using it as its "special" folder, and recreating it.)
Similarly for Trash, though probably you could delete the extra trash folder without moving the files, because they are trash.
Here are the details for changing the Special Mail Folders on the systems we use:
A) iPhone, iPad, iPod:
As a first step, use Settings > Mail to set your device to read your email account, then open the Mail program so that it will read the list of all of your folders from the mail server. After that, go back to Settings > Mail to make sure it is using the desired special mailboxes on the server.
Select your IMAP account in the settings tool, and then press the button for "Advanced" settings, and find the list of special mailboxes, e.g. Sent, Trash, Drafts. For each, scroll through the list of folders on the server to choose the folder you wish to use for that function.
Note: iPhones/Pads/Pods also can be set to keep sent mail locally on the device. This is a spectacularly stupid choice for normal IMAP, as none of your other devices will be able to see the messages you send from your phone.
B) Mail.app on Mac desktops and laptops:
Set up mail so that it reads your messages and folders from the mail server.
Select the "Sent" folder that you wish to use in the list of folders at the lower left of the mail window. (On newer Macs, the folders may be hidden by default. Use the "View > Show Folder List" menu command to display them if necessary.)
Use the menu command "Mailbox > Use This Mailbox For > Sent" to specify that the selected mail box is the special folder for sent mail, and similarly for your Trash, Junk, or Drafts folders.
C) RoundCube Webmail (with the standard skin):
Login to your webmail site , and select the "Settings" icon in the upper right of the window, which has a "Gear" icon. This will display a "Settings" panel with buttons for "Preferences", "Folders", and "Identities" settings. When you first open the Settings panel, the "Section" panel shows a row of buttons for different Preferences.
Click "Special Folders" in the "Section" list to open a list of "Drafts", "Sent", "Junk", and "Trash". Each special folder is followed by a menu of all your server folders. Select the server folder to use for each special folder.
D): Thunderbird:
After you have set up your connection to your IMAP account, click "Get Mail" to fetch your existing mail and list of folders on the server.
Next, select the menu command "Options > Account Settings…" (Note that on current versions of Thunderbird, the default menu drops down from an icon of three horizontal bars, in the upper right corner of the mail window. You can use the Options command in this menu to display a menu bar at the top of the Thunderbird window if you wish. With the full menu, the menu command to access the special folders settings is "Tools > Account Settings…"
Select "Copies and Folders" in the list at the left of the Account Settings window. This panel has a section for Sent mail, Archives, Drafts, and Templates. Select "Junk Settings" in the list at left to specify the location of the Junk special folder.
For each special folder, the default choice is the the folder on the server with the "typical" name, e.g. "Sent" for sent, and "Trash" for trash. To use a different name, select the "Other:" option for the folder, and then choose the desired folder from the list of folders on the server.
Oof! That's a lot of explaining for a issue that Apple should have gotten right in the first place, or at least should have fixed in their next several tries. It would not break any existing functionality if they merely used whatever folder the server had created, and only made their own if there was none.

Sent mail occasionally not stored in sent folder

Hi,
we encountered weird problem with OS X server behaviour where user sent email via smtp server and it is not stored in his/her mailbox.
This issue is happening time to time I would say almost randomly.
Do you have any idea why this is happening and where is the sent mail?
I picked a case and gathered relevant logs:
Thank you in advance
Server OS 10.10.1 server 4.0.3
Amavis.log
Apr 1 17:10:28 smtp.server.tld /Applications/Server.app/Contents/ServerRoot/usr/bin/amavisd[99344]: (99344-14) ESMTP:[127.0.0.1]:10024 /Library/Server/Mail/Data/scanner/amavis/tmp/amavis-20150401T162847-99344-AfuMa tsy: <[email protected]> -> <[email protected]>,<[email protected]> SIZE=42753 Received: from smtp.server.tld ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.server.tld [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP; Wed, 1 Apr 2015 17:10:28 +0200 (CEST)
Apr 1 17:10:28 smtp.server.tld /Applications/Server.app/Contents/ServerRoot/usr/bin/amavisd[99344]: (99344-14) Checking: JjUbZ6HVURz7 [31.7.245.146] <[email protected]> -> <[email protected]>,<[email protected]>
Apr 1 17:10:28 smtp.server.tld /Applications/Server.app/Contents/ServerRoot/usr/bin/amavisd[99344]: (99344-14) Open relay? Nonlocal recips but not originating: [email protected]
Apr 1 17:10:28 smtp.server.tld /Applications/Server.app/Contents/ServerRoot/usr/bin/amavisd[99344]: (99344-14) FWD from <[email protected]> -> <[email protected]>,<[email protected]>,BODY=7BIT 250 2.0.0 from MTA(smtp:[127.0.0.1]:10025): 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 920CA6DC5A3
Apr 1 17:10:28 smtp.server.tld /Applications/Server.app/Contents/ServerRoot/usr/bin/amavisd[99344]: (99344-14) Passed CLEAN {RelayedInbound,RelayedOpenRelay}, [31.7.245.146]:47116 [31.7.245.146] <[email protected]> -> <[email protected]>,<[email protected]>, Queue-ID: 1D4EE6DC589, Message-ID: <[email protected]>, mail_id: JjUbZ6HVURz7, Hits: 0.732, size: 42753, queued_as: 920CA6DC5A3, 493 ms
mail.log
Apr 1 17:10:28 smtp.server.tld postfix/smtp[1487]: 1D4EE6DC589: to=<[email protected]>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:10024, delay=0.55, delays=0.03/0.02/0/0.49, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 from MTA(smtp:[127.0.0.1]:10025): 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 920CA6DC5A3)
Apr 1 17:10:36 smtp.server.tld postfix/smtp[1493]: 920CA6DC5A3: to=<[email protected]>, relay=mail.receiverserver.com[11.22.33.44]:25, delay=7.4, delays=0.06/0.03/0.37/7, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 OK id=1YdKHr-0006of-5z)
filter na 920CA6DC5A3
Apr 1 17:10:28 smtp.server.tld postfix/smtpd[1491]: 920CA6DC5A3: client=localhost[127.0.0.1]
Apr 1 17:10:28 smtp.server.tld postfix/cleanup[1486]: 920CA6DC5A3: message-id=<[email protected]>
Apr 1 17:10:28 smtp.server.tld postfix/qmgr[215]: 920CA6DC5A3: from=<[email protected]>, size=43163, nrcpt=2 (queue active)
Apr 1 17:10:28 smtp.server.tld postfix/smtp[1487]: 1D4EE6DC589: to=<[email protected]>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:10024, delay=0.55, delays=0.03/0.02/0/0.49, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 from MTA(smtp:[127.0.0.1]:10025): 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 920CA6DC5A3)
Apr 1 17:10:28 smtp.server.tld postfix/smtp[1487]: 1D4EE6DC589: to=<[email protected]>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:10024, delay=0.55, delays=0.03/0.02/0/0.49, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 from MTA(smtp:[127.0.0.1]:10025): 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 920CA6DC5A3)
Apr 1 17:10:28 smtp.server.tld postfix/pipe[1495]: 920CA6DC5A3: to=<[email protected]>, orig_to=<[email protected]>, relay=dovecot, delay=0.16, delays=0.06/0.01/0/0.1, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered via dovecot service)
Apr 1 17:10:36 smtp.server.tld postfix/smtp[1493]: 920CA6DC5A3: to=<[email protected]>, relay=mail.receiverserver.com[11.22.33.44]:25, delay=7.4, delays=0.06/0.03/0.37/7, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 OK id=1YdKHr-0006of-5z)
Apr 1 17:10:36 smtp.server.tld postfix/qmgr[215]: 920CA6DC5A3: removed

I have a few users reporting the same problem. It is inconsistent and I have not found a way to reproduce it at will.
Our users have been BCC them selves so they have a copy to move to sent it if is not there.
They have also reported mail being copied to the Send and Drafts folders when they send it.
When they login from a different mail client the folders are the same. So I am assuming the problem is server side? Or at least the result is.
Is it the clients job to ask the server to move the mail from outbox to the sent folder?
I think this is where the problem is occurring.
We were looking at it this morning and moving mail around from Drafts to Trash and Sent. Mostly it moved around fine but there was one instance where we moved mail from Drafts to Trash.
We then quit and opened mail again (we waited until the activity window was empty)
The mail we moved to Trash was gone. But a new mail was in Drafts that had been sent earlier that morning. A copy was still in the Sent folder.
We could not reproduce this.
We also have roundcube but it is the mail.app clients that notice the problems. They are the majority so it is to be expected.
Clients OS X 10.10.2, mail.app 8.2
Server 4.0.3, OS X 10.10.2, Roundcube 1.0.3 (Topicdesk Roundcube Installer 1.0.3a)

Mail Rules not applying to Sent folder

I have rules set up to color code my e-mails. They work fine in all my mailboxes (Inbox, Trash, personal folders), but do not work properly when applied to my 'Sent' folder (the messages all turn orange). What's the problem?
I have Gmail being forwarded to the Apple Mail program using IMAP settings.

there is no problem. Mail rules work on incoming mail only. if you want Mail rules to apply to sent messages you need a 3rd party plugin. MailActOn
http://www.indev.ca/MailActOn.html
can do it.

Some sent mails do not appear in "sent"-folder

Dear fellow Apple enthusiasts,
can anybody please tell me whats going on?
Since Mac OS 10.7 (i am now on 10.8.2) i have constantly expierenced loss of sent mails.
Just now again I sent out an email from one of my IMAP accounts which does not show up in my "sent" folder.
Many do, but some are just not there, allthough they are being recieved by the person i sent them to.
I am ittle bit clueless, any ideas?
thanks

The following article segment doesn't apply to you directly, however, in it may be contained the solution to your problem...
http://www.macworld.com/article/1157846/mailgmail.html
Step 4: Fine-tune your Mail settings
Now that Gmail is all set, it’s time to tweak your Mail settings to be on their best behavior. Go to Mail -> Preferences, and select your Gmail account. Click on the Mailbox Behaviors tab and:
Enable Store Draft Messages On The Server if you want your drafts to be accessible in Gmail on the Web.
Make sure Store Sent Messages On The Server is checked, and that the Delete Sent Messages When popup menu is set to Never.
Enable Move Deleted Messages To The Trash Mailbox, but disable Store Deleted Messages On The Server. This is the other half of the feature we set up in step 3. Mail will create its own Trash folder that is stored locally on your Mac, but in Gmail on the Web, messages will be archived and searchable. Close the settings window and click Save to accept your changes.
Find your Gmail folders in Mail’s sidebar, unfurl the folder called [Gmail], and then select the Drafts subfolder. Then select Mailbox -> Use This Mailbox For -> Drafts.
Select the [Gmail] -> Sent Mail subfolder and choose Mailbox -> Use This Mailbox For -> Sent
Finally, select the [Gmail] -> Spam subfolder and select Mailbox -> Use This Mailbox For -> Junk. These last three actions ensure that Mail and Gmail are on the same page when it comes to which folders to use for storing these types of messages. If you use multiple Macs, be sure to go through these motions in Mail on each one.
Your Gmail account and Mail should now be humming along together about as in tune as they can, given their different approaches to handling e-mail.

Mail-separate account-add a Sent folder

I'm using my new iPad mini. In Mail, I have my .mac (or .me, or icloud) account set up fine and there is the usual array of folders, such as in, junk, trash, sent, etc. but I have a second account using my local ISP, and though I am able to get and send email using that email address and account, the folders are limited to inbox, outbox, trash. I would like to have a "sent" folder there as well, just like I do on my desktop Mac Pro, running Snow Leopard, and my MacBook Pro running Lion.
Can I do that on this iPad mini?

Typically to get those extra folders to show up on your device you would need to have certain settings, usually accounts like POP accounts which most ISPs use dont allow you to sync all the folders over. So the ones you have on your mac are just on your mac not on the mail server. Accounts that support IMAP will show other folders and allow you to create new folders and sync across your devices like your icloud email which is IMAP.

"Sent" folder in Mail doesn't sync with "Sent" folder on Gmail. PLEASE HELP!!!!

I am completely stumped by this and really REALLY frustrated.
I can't figure out how to make the "sent" folder in mail (i.e the one with the paper plane icon) contain ALL my sent messages from Gmail.
It works perfectly fine on my iPhone and iPad but just not mail on my mac!!!
I am using Mail version 4.5 and Snow Leopard.
PLEASE someone HELP!!!
Thanks

I'm new here so you'll have to bear with me if my explanation needs work!
I suspect that your problem may be that your Mac is storing the sent stuff on the local folder (probably hapening with junk and trash too???) If this is the case then...
Make sure you have the correct IMAP path prefix - entered in Mail Preferences > Accounts > Advanced - I believe that the prefix you need is Gmail
Quit Mail so it doesn't interfere with what you're doing,
Open ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.mail.plist with the Property List Editor
Take a back up copy (I saved mine to desk top) of com.apple.mail.plist
Look for the key named MailAccounts and click the arrow to expand it
you should see all your accounts indexed as 0, 1, 2, etx
Find your IMAP accounts (check that the key AccountType is IMAPAccount)
Find the key SentMessagesMailboxName and change it to Gmail/Sent (substitute INBOX for IMAP Path Prefix if incorrect)
Find the key TrashMailboxName and change it to Gmail/Trash
I think I had to do the same with junk too
Hope that is of some use or at least makes enough sense :-)

My sent mail isn't showing I sent folder on iPhone and ipad

Why isn't my sent mail appearing in the sent folder on my iPhone and ipad.

Are you using Apple's mail app or another mail app?
 Cheers, Tom

I can't delete mail that is in my sent folder

When I go to delete messages from my sent folder, I hit edit and the delete does not highlight.

Hi just wondering if anyone can help me with the above question. Thanks!

When using iphoto to e-mail photos the resulting e-mail doesn't show up in sent folder of mail.

There seems to be a an incompatibility within iphoto when you share images from within Iphoto using Apple Mail. The e-mail seems to send fine but when you try to go back and look for it in the sent folder of mail, it isn't there....
Also, when the recipient of the e-mail with the photos replies to your e-mail, the resulting reply that you receive in Apple Mail is not viewable. It shows up in the list of e-mails, but can not be opened...
Anyone else seeing these issues?

Nope - have not seen that complaint here are all
Just to verify - you are using Apple Mail? It does not sound like it. You set it in the iPhoto preferences. If you are using the default iPhoto mail rather than Apple mail then there is no sent folder and people on PCs may have trouble viewing the photos
If you are using Apple mail try exporting a photo and attaching it and try doing one using the Mail media browser and see - as far as mail is concerned there is no difference between starting the mail from iPhoto and starting it from mail
LN

Mail seems to go out, gets copied into Sent folder, but isn't really sent

Thunderbird would seem to send my mail, moving it into the Sent folder and showing no error message, but the mail didn't really get sent. I saw some advice that said to try deleting my password (even though the password was correct). I tried that and the mail worked a few days but then the problem re-appeared. Just now I received a software update (31.1.1) so I decided to try again. I deleted my password from the list under Tool>Options, I sent a test mail (providing my password manually), and it worked but the next mail I tried didn't work. Just disappeared again without arriving anywhere. (I wasn't asked for my password again-- I suppose because I hadn't logged out since providing it.) What's causing my problem?

regardless, I suggest you try [https://wiki.mozilla.org/MailNews:Logging logging ]the connection. But I think that Thunderbird is sending the mail to the server. If the server is blacklisted is another question entirely. And given that ISPs particularly '''DO NOT''' use the same SMTP server to send mail from their web mail platform as the assign for mail client use being able to send from the web mail is a non starter in diagnosing the problem.,
Perhaps the log will provide enough information to bulldoze through the poor level one support at your provider to level two where there might be someone that actually knows what an SMTP server is.

How to see a sent folder on iPad?

Hi all,
I cannot seem to figure out how to get a Sent folder in my iPad mail. I have a sent folder on my iPhone, and have looked at the settings on both and they seem to be exactly the same, but on my iPad, there is no Sent, Trash, Draft, etc. What gives???

Where are you looking for these?
In the mail App if you tap the back arrow with the name of the account you are currently in at the top of the mail list pane, it should get you back to the configured Mail accounts list. The bottom part of that pane, should have you account mailboxes you can tap on those to get the folder structure for your mail.

How to disable "grouping" function in sent folder?

In the latest update of Mail, 2.0.5, the sent folder has a new column heading that looks like two little diagonal arrows. This seems to group email by subject text -- even if the messages are otherwise unrelated. It ruins the sort-by-date function, and hides messages. I hate it! Unlike the other column headings, this one isn't listed under View>Columns. How can I disable this new function???

Hi:
I think you're describing "organize by thread" behavior. To disable it, select the Sent mailbox. Then choose the "View > Organize by Thread" menu item. That menu item should be unchecked, and then your sent messages will appear individually.

Using Windows: Send to -- Mail recipient, msg is sent OK, but not saved in Sent folder, with err msg about it. Sending from within Thunderbird: msg saved OK.

When using Windows 8.1 context menu: Send to --> Mail recipient, message is sent OK, but not saved in Sent folder, with error massage: There was an error saving the message to Sent. Retry? (selecting Retry doesn't help).
Similar issue happens when I open a ".eml" file and Reply of Forward it.
When composing a new message from within Thunderbird, all is OK, including saving in the Sent folder.
Already tried:
Compacting the Sent folder.
Compacting all folders of the account.
Uninstall Thunderbird and install the latest version (31.6.0).

When using Windows 8.1 context menu: Send to --> Mail recipient, message is sent OK, but not saved in Sent folder, with error massage: There was an error saving the message to Sent. Retry? (selecting Retry doesn't help).
Similar issue happens when I open a ".eml" file and Reply of Forward it.
When composing a new message from within Thunderbird, all is OK, including saving in the Sent folder.
Already tried:
Compacting the Sent folder.
Compacting all folders of the account.
Uninstall Thunderbird and install the latest version (31.6.0).

Mail & Yahoo: how can I get "Sent" folder to synch, like the "Inbox"?

Happy to be back in Mac, after 15yrs of corporate MS boredom. And TIA for your help with my little 'set-up' problem.
I'd like that my "Sent" mailbox (in Mail.app) mimic the functionality of my "Inbox" mailbox, as relates to my Yahoo!Plus email account. What do I mean? My Inbox associated with my Yahoo account, i.e. in the Mail sidebar under the higher-level Inbox mailbox, contains every email that was in my Inbox on the Yahoo server (and still is, since I chose not to "Remove a copy from the server after retrieving a message, in Mail>Prefs>Accts>Advanced pane).
But the "Sent" mailbox associated with my Yahoo account only contains the messages I send from the Mail application (clearly only when I choose to use the Yahoo account). Also, none of these messages appear in the Sent folder on the Yahoo server, i.e. when I go to the Yahoo site via a web browser, which I'll do when not carrying the Mac with me.
Otherwise, setting up Mail to work with Yahoo was a breeze. N.B. I pay the $20/yr fee for the Mail Plus account/service, so didn't get stuck with the "pay to play" issue that many others have when trying to set up their free Yahoo acct w/Mail.
I recall having this "Sent" folder functionality when I was using Outlook a couple of years ago, hence the answer to 'why would this guy have been paying $20 a year...?'. And I don't/won't go there on my Mac!
Thanks, again, for any help.
MBP 15" Core 2 Duo Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Necessity being the Mother of invention, I built a crude work-around and fixed half of the problem. I'd still be interested to hear if any of you have 'solved' the other half.
First half fix: On the mail.yahoo.com site, go to the Sent folders and select all of the messages there. Then, in the header, click on the "Move..." button and then select the "Inbox" as the destination. (N.B. This can not be undone; You can move messages from the Inbox to other folders, but not to your Sent folder. Go figure.) The next time you synch (or "Get Mail") from the Mac's Mail app, these "sent" messages will appear in your Inbox. Sort the Inbox by sender and move the messages sent by you to your "Sent" mailbox folder.
Now you've got a complete history of emails, both sent and received, on your Mac.
Second problem not fixed: Messages sent from the Mail app do not appear in the "Sent" folder on mail.yahoo website. So while your Inbox is synchronized between your Mac and your yahoo! account, your Sent items are not.
I was hoping that synching my Mac Mail with .Mac would allow me to see my sent messages remotely, from any internet browser. But at first blush, that dog don't hunt.
Any advice - short of a wholesale move to my @mac.com email - would be appreciated greatly. Even if the advice is "give up the ghost; can't be done; give up the yahoo email"!
Cheers.
-David

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