In my scenario from r3 to CRM,IDOC for r3,which adapter is best for CRM

from r3 to CRM which adapter is best for CRM for customer data

Hi ,
Some more info that might help you make a decision:
CRM Middleware & XI
Will SAP CRM Middleware be replaced by XI
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