'In place' upgrade from 7.8 to 8.1

Hi!
I'm kicking off some planning around an upgrade from 7.8 to 8.1 / 8.2 Public Sector. Aside from the repository and non-repository code item work, I've started to think about the logistics of upgrading the actual software. Our plan is to keep the phyiscal architecture as is, as it's more than capable of supporting 8.1. We're running completely on Win2K3 with an Oracle 10g back end DB.
Has anyone performed an 'in place' upgrade from 7.8 to 8.1? That is, starting cutover with 7.8 running on a set of phyiscal servers and finishing cutover with 8.1 running on the same set of machines?
I'm thinking along the lines of a 2 phase cutover, taking a weekend to install software, configure new components (such as BI Publisher, as we're replacing Actuate at this point) and doing as much 'zero impact' work as possible. This will be an outage weekend, where we take 7.8 offline to do any work and bring it all back up at the end. The second phase would be the database upgrade, SRF, repository and non-repository element deployment, along with bringing up the 8.1 system.
I have a few obvious thoughts, such as installing Gateway and Server components on machines already running 7.8 versions. CFG and siebns settings should be kept distinct in different installation folders, but does Siebel store anything in the registry? I'm also aware that the Gateway and Component ports will be the same / conflicting, but this shouldn't be a problem if only one set of services are running at any given time.
I'm also concerned that we cannot do the Gateway and Server installation and config without having an 8.1 database already in place. Is that the case? If not, I'm hoping we can get the installations and component group allocation and configuration done without affecting the 7.8 service. We can then take full server backups and be ready to 'just' do a database upgrade on the second cutover date.
Anyway, I'd really appreciate any thoughts or experiences that you all may have or have had on such a plan.
Thank you!

Hi,
From your message, I understand that you have 8 siebel servers and 2 for oracle database (Correct me if I am wrong). For the production environment you will need to remove all siebel components from at least one system each for gateway, siebel server and webserver. Do ensure that your database is properly backed up before proceeding with a db upgrade.
Do note that removing one server each will be hitting your application very hard and hence it will be great if you proceed only during a long weekend or sometime giving you a good time duration to do the upgrade and do the system checks also. Also I would suggest to do siebel install and oracle db upgrade in one go. Please consult your db admin for the best way forward in this.
Once your 8.1 installation is running do the import of all the integration points that you have for the older system and then verify their functioning with your installation. Only when everything you need appears to be working as per the previous system, shut down the older system and remove existing Siebel components and do the necessary installations.
You may like to see this site "http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B31104_02/books/SiebInstUNIX/SiebInstCOM_InstGateway3.html" , "http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E05553_01/books/SiebInstUNIX/SiebInstCOM_InstSiebSrvr3.html" and "http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E05553_01/books/SiebInstUNIX/SiebInstCOM_InstSWSE3.html" for pointers in case you are not comfortable removing siebel server components from your production environments.
With Regards,
Tanmay Jain

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    2014-07-15 11:27:55, Error      [0x0808fe] MIG    Plugin {0b23c863-4410-4153-8733-a60c9b1990fb}: LoadLibrary error (C:\Windows\system32\TableTextServiceMig.dll) gle=0
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    2014-07-15 11:28:29, Error      [0x0808fe] MIG    Plugin {0b23c863-4410-4153-8733-a60c9b1990fb}: LoadLibraryEx error (C:\$WINDOWS.~BT\Sources\ReplacementManifests\Microsoft-Windows-TextServicesFramework-Migration\IMJPMIG.DLL)
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    2014-07-15 11:28:29, Error      [0x0808fe] MIG    Plugin {0b23c863-4410-4153-8733-a60c9b1990fb}: LoadLibrary error (C:\Windows\system32\IMJPMIG.DLL) gle=0
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    2014-07-15 11:28:29, Error      [0x0808fe] MIG    Plugin {0b23c863-4410-4153-8733-a60c9b1990fb}: LoadLibrary error (C:\Windows\system32\IMJPMIG.DLL) gle=0
    2014-07-15 11:28:29, Error      [0x0808fe] MIG    Plugin {0b23c863-4410-4153-8733-a60c9b1990fb}: LoadLibraryEx error (C:\$WINDOWS.~BT\Sources\ReplacementManifests\Microsoft-Windows-TextServicesFramework-Migration\IMKRMIG.DLL)
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    2014-07-15 11:28:29, Error      [0x0808fe] MIG    Plugin {0b23c863-4410-4153-8733-a60c9b1990fb}: LoadLibrary error (C:\Windows\system32\CHXMIG.DLL) gle=0
    2014-07-15 11:28:29, Error      [0x0808fe] MIG    Plugin {0b23c863-4410-4153-8733-a60c9b1990fb}: LoadLibraryEx error (C:\$WINDOWS.~BT\Sources\ReplacementManifests\Microsoft-Windows-TextServicesFramework-Migration\TableTextServiceMig.dll)
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    2014-07-15 11:28:29, Error      [0x0808fe] MIG    Plugin {0b23c863-4410-4153-8733-a60c9b1990fb}: LoadLibrary error (C:\Windows\system32\TableTextServiceMig.dll) gle=0
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    2014-07-15 11:33:28, Error      [0x060082] IBS    Callback_ImageTransfer:Failed to lay down the WinPE image; hr = 0x80070522[gle=0x00000057]
    2014-07-15 11:41:11, Error      [0x0606cc] IBS    WIMApplyImage failed; hr = 0x80070522[gle=0x00000522]
    2014-07-15 11:41:11, Error      [0x0600a1] IBS    DeployImage:Image application failed; hr = 0x80070522[gle=0x00000057]
    2014-07-15 11:41:11, Error      [0x060082] IBS    Callback_ImageTransfer:Failed to lay down the OS image; hr = 0x80070522[gle=0x00000057]
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