In RH9, random conditional build tags appear within topic text

I have assigned conditional build tags to text within a topic. After closing the topic and re-entering at a later time, other (additional) text now has the conditional build tag assigned as well. However, I did not assign the tags to those other sections of text.
I do not have any trouble assigning a conditional build tag at the topic level. The issue only occurs when a tag has been assigned to text within a topic.

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    Sorry, I should have said see the Announcements.
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    We have an interesting problem in that some of our conditional build tags have somehow gone missing! We are unable to select them to apply to content/topics for selection, however where the tags have been applied the tooltip showing the condition is displayed when you hover the cursor over the 'conditioned' content. When we look at the tags applied in the topic properties dialog box, the tag does not appear.
    I'm hoping that someone might have experienced this and can point us in the right direction please? Does anyone know which RoboHelp file holds all the conditional build tag information? Does anyone know an ideal solution that does not entail us creating replacement tags then reapplying them to the relevant information?
    Thanks all for your help.
    Lillibet

    From my recent experiments with modifying .apj files and what not behind the back of RH9 I can say that this also happened to me, especially in situations where I deleted the .cdb and the .xpj file to start over from opening the .hhp file. Anyway, you might look into the file rhbuildtag.apj and examine whether your build tags are in there.
    If not, just create them either in an editor if you know the syntax
    <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
    <rhpml majorversion="4" minorversion="0">
        <buildtags>
            <buildtag>
                <name>BUILDTAG_1</name>
                <colorref>12632256</colorref>
                <comments/>
            </buildtag>
            <buildtag>
                <name>BUILDTAG_2</name>
                <colorref>16711680</colorref>
                <comments/>
            </buildtag>
            <buildtag>
                <name>Online</name>
                <colorref>65280</colorref>
                <comments/>
            </buildtag>
            <buildtag>
                <name>Print</name>
                <colorref>255</colorref>
                <comments/>
            </buildtag>
        </buildtags>
    </rhpml>
    Or you may just recreate them from the GUI.
    Christoph

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