In the develop noise reduction/correction is missing

in the develop noise reduction/correction module is completely missing

I suggested the same thing 2 hours before and got “it’s not there” a couple times:
http://forums.adobe.com/message/5960745#5960745
sereshka60, if what we’re telling you isn’t matching what you’re trying to describe, please upload a screenshot of your Develop area where the NR pane should be, so we can understand what you’re seeing.

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On my old Macbook, I had the option under System Preferences>Input. However, since I've upgraded to a 2012 2.7 i5 iMac, it's no longer there.
The problem lies in the fact that I DON'T want the Ambient Noise Reduction turned on. My recordings in Garageband sound really strange with it. However, it is very obviously being applied to said recordings.
Anyone have any ideas about how to go about solving this?

I'm running OSX 10.8.3 as well. In System Preferences>Sound>Input tab, do you not have the option indicated in the image?

Has anyone use the 'NeatVideo' noise reduction plugin?

Today I spend most of my time looking for a noise reduction technique in FCP and came across a couple of plugins.
Noise reduction from Netvideo
De Noise from Re-vision effects
Most of the people pick the plugin from Neatvideo because even after redction that grain and noise it re-tains the video quality but having said that it is very hign on the CPU usuage.
So I was wondering if anyone has given the full version a try on FCP?
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Neat Video plug is great. Here's how I used it.
6 camera HDV 1080i 50, 100 min music shoot. Each Cam output was 2 x 50 min clips.
Half way through editing, I decided the HDV looked noisy because of a lot of low light footage, so tried the NV plug and got great results on a couple of clips. So I decided to process all the original Cam output and then substitute the files using FCPs reconnect process(just as I did with my photo-jpeg multi-clip footage) AND de-interlace at the same time.
Create Prores 422 sequence for each original cam clip in one FCP Project - 12 sequences.
Drag a HDV clip into each Sequence.
Drag the Nattress de-interlace plug onto each clip in each sequence and then the Neat Video Reduce Noise lug
Create the Device Noise Profile(which is actually the clip noise profile in my case) and add just a touch of sharpening in the Noise Filter Settings.
Select all the sequences in the browser and batch export them all as a quicktime movies.
Here's the sting in the tail - I then went on location for a month leaving the Mac Intel 8 core 3GHz on an uninterruptible power supply, to process it all.
When I returned it had taken 3 and a half weeks but looked very good. Luckily I'm away often!

Soundtrack Pro on the fly noise reduction filter?

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Inconsistency in the Preview with Color Noise Reduction

Adobe guys: You have a bad variable access, bad pointer, or something in Camera Raw with regard to Color Noise Reduction...
If I have color noise reduction turned off (set to 0), I see this:
And in fact it converts to just what shows in the preview:
If I bump the Color noise reduction slider up to 1 with the Color Detail slider at 100, I get this wonderful DeBayer smoothing in the preview:
But alas, this is what comes out in the conversion:
The smoothing shown DOES in fact match if one sets the Color Detal slider to 50 at the middle of the scale:
This is just an annoyance, but it does take some trial and error to see what you really want the Color Detail slider set to.
By the way, I notice that the jaggies come and go seemingly randomly when the Color Detail slider is at 100 and I move the Color slider. I suspect you're reading the wrong or random location for Color Detail, or maybe have an overflow/underflow condition somehow.
Object oriented programming - fraught with gotchas.
-Noel

What you are seeing is a limitation of the diagonal/curve behavior of the current demosaic method on colored boundaries, combined with the (preview-quality) color noise reduction with specific settings. It is the demosaic strategy that is at fault here (and is why you see these results in the final exported result).

Noise reduction not working on Lightroom 5.4 MAC

I have experienced that the noise reduction that I apply to my pictures is only visible in the develop area of the software. As I switch to library it disappear and the same happen if I export the picture in any kind of format.
I post a screenshot where you can see a sample picture with the desired noise reduction applied (on the right) and the same picture as it shows in the library area (on the left). Switching between this two areas (library and develop) results like a noise reduction toggle.
Dropbox - example.tiff
Is there a way to solve this bug?
Thank you.

Usually Develop-Fit view is crispier than Library or Export, when there has been enough noise-reduction added to an image to make it seem smooth, and people complain that sharpening is not being applied; however, in this situation through extreme noise-reduction settings, an artificial coarse texture has replaced the fine-grained noise which seems to manifest differently in Develop Fit view, and the complaint is that Library has no NR applied.
In more detail, there are two issues, here, both of the user's doing, not LR's:
1) A user-expectation that the Develop non-1:1 zoom is accurate regarding Detail settings. It is not. For years there has been an exclamation-point warning on the Detail settings section that says to view things only at 1:1. If a user doesn't see or ignores this warning then their expectation is wrong, as in this situation.
2) The Luminance Noise-Reduction Detail slider has been increased from the default of 50 to the maximum of 100. This has the effect of converting the fine-grain noise into a course angular texture, which is easily visible at reduced sizes except in the inaccurate Develop Fit view.
In the following side-by-side at 1:1 zoom, the lefthand panel is as per the user settings with the Lum-NR-Detail slider set to 100, while the righthand side has the Lum-NR-Detail slider set at the default of 50, with all other user settings remaining the same:
I would summarize what is occurring not as a bug but a different response of the inaccurate Develop-Fit rendering to a different coarseness of noise that is caused by an extreme setting of the Lum-NR-Detail slider. Since there is no resizing and no sharpening in the Export settings, I don't think the 1/3 bug has anything to do with anything.
It would be nice for the original poster (OP) to describe exactly what is wrong, after knowing that the Develop view is in accurate if not viewed at 1:1.

Adjustment brush with exposure setting cancels noise reduction

Hello,
I just noticed the following problem:
1) Camera Raw 6.5; Bridge CS5 (4.0.5.11); Mac OS X 10.6.8; Mac Pro 3,1; Dual Quad-Core Xeon; 8GB RAM.
2) Start with a noisy raw file (mine is from a Canon 5D II).
3) Apply Noise Reduction (Luminance:30; Lum Detail:75; Lum Contrast:0; Color:25; Color Detail:50).
4) Go to Adjustment Brush and set a non-zero Exposure value.
5) Apply brush to image and notice the Noise Reduction effects disappear (noise returns).
6) Click Clear All button to clear Adjustment Brush and Noise Reduction works again.
This seems to only happen with Adjustment Brushes with a non-zero Exposure value (applying brightness or other settings don't seem to produce the problem).
Anyone else seeing this?
Thanks!

Richard (and others),
Yes, very good idea to check that. The problem does indeed get applied to the full sized, opened image as well as to the display previews. After working with this more, I now notice that I was wrong to say that the entire noise reduction is cancelled - rather it "changes", sometimes subtly, sometimes more dramatically depending on what the noise reduction settings are set to. Further, how dramatic the "changes" appear depend greatly on the preview zoom (the changes are more subtle at 100%, but it can look like the noise reduction is completely turned off at 50% and 66%).
Now I realize that the noise reduction does not ordinarily display at all preview sizes (especially smaller ones), but this is different. At preview sizes where it does normally get applied, applying an adjustment brush with any non-zero exposure value (even just +0.05) can have the appearance that the NR is completely turned off for the whole image. Simply nudging the exposure value back to zero brings all the noise reduction back.
Also, to be clearer and avoid confusion for others, the change in noise I'm seeing is not localized to just the brushed spot. Obviously if one increases exposure, you'd expect to potentially see more noise. Instead, what I'm seeing happens to the entire image, even if I simply paint a single small brush dot, say in a far corner. Having the image change globally in response to painting a small spot with the adjustment brush cannot be a correct result. Further, this does not happen with any of the other adjustment brush settings like brightness, contrast or saturation. There must be something unique about the exposure setting that perhaps introduces a new step into the processing pipeline, and this step is affecting the entire image.
In any case, the problem only seems to be an issue in somewhat extreme cases and is less noticeable at 100% (and the finally opened image). It's more just annoying when previews are generated for viewing in Bridge, for example.
I suppose one alternative might be to rob a bank and go buy one of those new 1D X's. Then maybe I wouldn't have to worry about noise anymore.
Thanks for the responses!

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Lightroom 5 Noise reduction

The advertisement for Lightroom 5 says
Superior noise reduction
Get amazing, natural-looking results from your high ISO images with state-of-the-art noise reduction technology. Apply noise reduction to the entire image, or target specific areas.
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Nikon D70s + Process 2010 + Luminance Noise Reduction + Adjustment Brush = blurry picture

Please let me know if you have experienced the following and if it is a known bug:
I'm processing a very noisy Nikon D70s raw photograph with Lightroom 3: In the develop mode, I applied the 2010 process under Camera Calibration, and then set the Luminance Noise Reduction to 98 in the detail panel. At this point, the resulting improvement over the original is dramatic and the details are rather crisp given the original condition of the photo.
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I exported the photo to a jpeg and found the undesired effect in the jpeg file.
I believe this issue has a relation with the RAW file coming from a Nikon D70s as I performed a Sync of all the settings on RAW photos originating from a Canon 30D, and from a Canon XSi and did not see any of the undesired effect.
These steps appear to be reproduceable on any of the Nikon D70s RAW photos that I have in my catalog.
Please share some feedback.
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The NEF and xmp files are now available at http://drop.io/LR3BugAdjBrushNoise8736
In the current development settings, I added an adjustment brush to the ceiling with an exposure adjustment of +0.01 simply to demonstrate the issue. As soon as the adjustment is applied, bluriness can be seen and is most apparent in the faces but can also be seen on the wooden floor and everywhere else.
I also noticed that by setting the mask to show (O), ditthering can be seen in the mask even though it was applied with feather, flow and density all set to 100%.
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Bruno

How do I permanantly apply audio noise reduction in FCP X

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I am fixing audio on a 1 hour program. Really need this to work. Anyone else having the same problem, or found a solution? Or know what I might be doing wrong?
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Paul Kakert wrote:
The Background Noise Reduction in FCP X, applied at 100%, does a truly amazing job.
Does this mean you actually like the audio to sound as though it was recorded under water? I guess it depends on the amount of noise that requires removing, but I've never been able to tolerate more than about 40% before the audio gets horribly distorted.
I really don't share your experience of FCP X removing background noise 'on the fly' (sorry).
Andy

Default Noise Reduction Settings

HI, i upgraded from Digital Photo Professional 3 to 4, and it looks like the "Default Noise Reduction Settings" have been removed from preferences. Is there any way to achieve a default luminance and chrominance settings of 0 in DPP4?
Thanks!

I don't think so. There is nothing in the manual about, and like you, I can't see a way in preferences.
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PV2010 Color Noise Reduction Robs Dark Tones

No pun intended.
I thought at first it was the raw-conversion/de-mosaicing, but its turned out to be the color noise reduction.
Here is a the latest example of a picture that looks better in PV2003 than PV2010 no matter what I do, because of loss of clarity / contrast / dark-tones resulting from the new Color Noise Reduction algorithm. Note: This loss can not be restored using clarity or contrast sliders.
This probably ought to be a feature request: A slider that controls the coarser aspects of color noise reduction (color waves or clarity/contrast) versus the most localized aspects (color specs). In this instance, just getting rid of the specs without trying to reduce the waves might leave the dark tones(?) - Something like that. In any case, there is room to improve color noise reduction so that it leaves the dark tones / contrast / clarity in certain cases like this.
(Its a 100% crop of a section of a fish under water)
PV2003:
PV2010:
The difference is striking when viewing the whole photo from afar...
PS - I just discovered that minimizing noise reduction will maintain the dark tones better - I've therefore added down-throttling of color noise reduction to my PV2003 -> PV2010 practice.
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dorin_nicolaescu wrote:
Luminosity Contrast slider also helps maintain some darker tones.
Indeed it do.
And, last but maybe (or maybe not) least, one can cheat a bit at the end and add some grain, to give the illusion of greater detail / texture. So, if you really want to preserve full detail when converting high ISO shots from PV2003 to PV2010, you need to:
1. Crank up the luminance noise reduction detail slider pretty darn high (if not all the way up).
2. Crank up the luminance noise reduction contrast slider pretty darn high (if not all the way up).
3. Minimize color noise reduction amount.
4. Crank up the color noise reduction detail slider fairly darn high (not all the way up! - color artefacts - bleh).
5. Maybe add a touch of grain (pretty darn low).
(I've left out the luminance NR amount slider and sharpening because they are the more obvious ones).
I'm guessing I'm not the first person to fall into the trap of trying to recover detail lost by noise reduction by decreasing luminance noise reduction amount and increasing sharpening detail (and maybe amount too), and winding up right back where you started - too much noise. The detail/contrast sliders of the noise reduction controls really work a lot better for that, and minimizing color noise reduction is also a hot tip for you detail junkies.
I hope I'm not the last person on this forum to realize what is now seeming sort of obvious to me, whilst everyone has a good laugh...
(I had previous just left color noise reduction and detail, plus luminance NR contrast at their defaults (I discovered the importance of the lum.NR detail slider long ago...) - but not anymore. It has helped me to articulate all this - hope it helps somebody else too..........
Rob

Noise reduction in Aperture

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