In which situation we will us e BAPI and IDOCS

Hi friends,
pls explain in which situation we will us e BAPI & IDOC, why ?
Regards
Jagadeeshwar.B

Hi,
Both are used for data transfer.
BAPIS are interfaces which enables to communicate with sap aswellas nonsap systems. IDOCS are intermediate documents sent between sap and nonsap systems.
BAPIs are a subset of the RFC-enabled function modules, especially designed as Application Programming Interface (API) to the SAP business object, or in other words: are function modules officially released by SAP to be called from external programs.
IDocs are text encoded documents with a rigid structure that are used to exchange data between R/3 and a foreign system. Instead of calling a program in the destination system directly, the data is first packed into an IDoc and then sent to the receiving system, where it is analyzed and properly processed. Therefore an IDoc data exchange is always an asynchronous process. The significant difference between simple RFC-calls and IDoc data exchange is the fact, that every action performed on IDocs are protocolled by R/3 and IDocs can be reprocessed if an error occurred in one of the message steps.
But BAPIs are synchronous ( i.e. the systems must be online) whereas IDOCS are synchronous ( ie. both systems need not be online .
we can make bapis asynchronous using the IDOCS.
thanks and regards.

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hello all
what is difference between BAPI and IDocs

Hi,
BAPI
One of the big plusses for BAPIs is that the interface and function are not supposed to change. This is a big plus when you do upgrades or hot packs because the transaction can change (format, required inputs etc) which means you then need to update the call transaction.
Some of the BAPIs are better documented and easier to use than others. You usually need to perform the BAPI that actually does the COMMIT after you call your BAPI.
The Program coding for calling a BAPI is usually cleaner than setting up the screen flow etc for the Call Transaction.
You don't need to worry about special data circumstances interrupting the normal data flow of the screens and causing errors because of that.
BAPIs probably have better performance since they don't do the screen flow processing.
In general if the BAPI exists for the transaction you want to perform and you can figure out how to use it the BAPI is probably the best way to go.
BAPIs are a subset of the RFC-enabled function modules, especially designed as Application Programming Interface (API) to the SAP business object, or in other words: are function modules officially released by SAP to be called from external programs.
IDOC
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asynchronous process. The significant difference between simple RFC-calls and IDoc data exchange is the fact, that every action performed on IDocs are protocolled by R/3 and IDocs can be reprocessed if an error occurred in one of the message steps.
While IDocs have to be understood as a data exchange protocol, EDI and ALE are typical use cases for IDocs. R/3 uses IDocs for both EDI and ALE to deliver data to the receiving system. ALE is basically the scheduling mechanism that defines when and between which partners and what kind of data will be exchanged on a regular or event triggered basis. Such a set-up is called an ALE-scenario.
The philosophical difference between EDI and ALE can be pinned as follows: If we send data to an external partner, we generally speak of EDI, while ALE is a mechanism to reliable replicate data between trusting systems to store a redundant copy of the IDoc data. The difference is made clear, when we think of a purchase order that is sent as an IDoc. If we send the purchase order to a supplier then the supplier will store the purchase order as a sales order. However, if we send the purchase order via ALE to another R/3 system, then the receiving system will store the purchase order also as a purchase order.
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Am uploading Purchasing Info Records by LSMW-Direct method.
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GR/IR clearing account
500 -
500 +
External service account
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25 +
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Change involving stocks
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Consumption account
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Vendor account
   525 -
GR/IR clearing account
500 -
500 +
External service account
500 +
25 +
Stock account: end product
1000 +
Change involving stocks
1000 -
Stock account: comp.
450 -
Consumption account
450 +
Posting Schema for Standard Price Control With Price Differences
However, if you wish to generate a price difference posting in those cases where the manufactured material is managed at standard price and the standard price varies from the receipt value (externally performed service + value of components + delivery costs), you can configure this in the Customizing system of Inventory Management.
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Postings
At goods receipt
At invoice receipt
Vendor account
   525 -
GR/IR clearing account
500 -
500 +
External service account
500 +
25 +
Stock account: end product
1000 +
Change involving stocks
950 -
Price difference
50 +
Stock account: comp.
450 -
Consumption account
450 +
Reg STO please inform in details entries in case plant to plant or between co-codes?
BR
Diwakar

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Thanks
Avi

Hai,
Yes, BAPI's can be used in Idoc's , For populating the Fields in the screen,
BAPI_INCOMINGINVOICE_CREATE .this is the BAPI for invoice
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MAnju

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Can any body please tell me what are the bapis for creating
following things.
Create Service Order or Sales Order
Update Service Order
Goods Issue & Goods Receipt
Inventory Balanceses
Purchase Requisition Information
Purchase Order Information
For this above are there any standard inbound and outbound
idoc for data transfer.
Thanks & Regards,
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Hi,
Thank you very much For the Information.
I had asked one more question below that.
"For this above are there any standard inbound and outbound
idoc for data transfer".
Thanks & Regards,
Chetan

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