Inactive Transformations and DataSources in Production System.
Hi Experts
We are working on BI 7.0 engine within Solution Manager.
We had some issues with DataSources initially while transporting BI Objects from Devp to Prod. We logged it into OSS and followed their procedure to redo the transports.
In the process, the issue was resolved but 2 New Transformations are created one for each Data Model (since I have only 2 InfoCubes) automatically and is the working model now.
Actual Transformations from Devp became Inactive in Prod and also there are 2 Inactive DataSources which are also from Devp. 2 New DataSources are again from Devp.
When I tried to Delete these unwanted Objects from Prod (I asked the Basis to Open Prod for me though this is not the best practice), it is asking for a Request ID. Also, since the Project has Gone Live already, I am scared if I might disturb the Production System.
Kindly, advise what best could and needs to be done.
Thanks,
Chandu
Initially, we implemented BI-HR module with standard content, which 3.x content (transfer / update rules)... in parallel we also did transformations & DTPs (BI 7.0 model).
Since, client wasn't sure with conversation of transfer rules (has lots of routines) to transformations & DTPs . So we transported both the models to prod sys... We created daily load process chains with transformations & DTPs... The actual plan was, if PC loads fails, then to go for manual loads of 3.x model...Fortunately 7.0 models was successful...
Then one month later, we deleted those transfer / update rules and 3.x datasources from prod sys, on the weekend (process chains runs only week days) without any issues...
We captured those deletion requests and deleted them from SE09 by unlocking them in SE03.
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Original System for transformations and DataSources
Dear All,
I have imported all DataSources and transformations from DEV box into QAS box. Transports ended without errors and they are working fine.
I have the following questions, when check the Object Directory Entry (RSA1->Extras-> Object directory entry) for transformations and DataSources the Original System is QAS.
Should not the original system be DEV?
Transformations technical names in QAS are not the same as in DEV. Should not they have identical technical names?
Details:
BI70 SAP NetWeaver 2004s
Support Packge 10
Thanks,
Carlos WefferTransfornations' technical names change is normal.
Also, when you see the object directory, the sysytem will eb Qa only as you would have converted the source system while transporting.
Ravi Thothadri -
How to Activate Transformations and DTP in PRODUCTION
Hi Experts,
I Have done some modifications in datasource in R/3 when i treid to run the Infopacakge in BI, I see the Datasource is inactivate.
So I have activated the DS through the program in se38 rsds_datasource_activate_all, after that i see the transformations and DTP is inactivate.
In 3.5 we have program to activate the transfer rules and updates though rsds_transtru_activate_all i dont have idea for update rules program to activate.
*Is there any program to activate the transformations and DTP in Production.Rather than re-transport entire thing.*
Regards.There is no activation program for Transformations. In order to do that in production, you would have to have the client opened for modification and manually activate the Transformation(s) that are in a deactivated state. This isn't advisable however. The best approach to activate deactivated Transformations is to capture on a transport in the development environment and move that transport throughout the landscape to production.
The SAP delivered ABAP program RSDKDTPREPAIR is available for activating DTPs. There is no selection screen for this program, however, and therefore it would try to activate all DTPs. This program should only be executed in background.
Here are the other activation programs in case you need them or are interested (I realize that you mentioned or more already):
RSDG_CUBE_ACTIVATE (InfoCube)
RSDG_IOBJ_ACTIVATE (InfoObject)
RSDG_MPRO_ACTIVATE (MultiProvider)
RSDG_ODSO_ACTIVATE (DSO)
RSQ_ISET_MASS_OPERATIONS (InfoSet - Requires client to be opened)
RSDS_DATASOURCE_ACTIVATE_ALL (DataSource)
SAP delivered program RSDS_TRANSTU_ACTIVATE_ALL is for activating Transfer Structures, which aren't relevant for 7.x DataSources. -
Inactive DataSource in Production System
Hi Experts,
I have a situation where DataSource inactive once I initialise infoPackage.we transported from Development to Production and it was active (green) in Production System.I tried to initialise infoPackage then I got the message
DataSource 2LIS_13_VDITM must be activated.How can I resolve the issue.Please throw some light on this issue.I am in a position like golive soon.your help will be appreciated and awardeHi,
1. Replicate the datasource at Application component Level. i.e. If your datasource is in an application component say, BW then right click on the application component "BW" and select "Replicate Metadata".
2. If you have transfer rules then activate them with program "RS_TRANSTRU_ACTIVATE_ALL".
SE38 -> RS_TRANSTRU_ACTIVATE_ALL, if you are not able to do it, ask help from your basis to do it, they will have option to do changes directly in prodution itself.
Also chk Note 1056060 - DataSource: Reactivation in the production system
Hope this helps,
Regards
CSM Reddy -
Inactive Transformations and DSO
Dear All,
After recent system patching ,i see lot of Transformations and DSO's gone inactive ,this is weird.
Could anyone tell is there any standard program to activate inactive DSO's.
Thanks in Advance
conHi Diogo,
Thanks for your immediate response and for the right solution.
I can activate it now,thanks again.
Keep in touch .
Regards
Con -
Inactive transformations and DTPs after running BDLS
Hi Experts
I ran the BDLS job, Restored , Activated and Replicated the S.S.
Some of my transformations and DTPs got inactivated . Does any body have any clue of why this happened.
My observations was when i restored it gave an error message " Error 2 in RFC_VERIFY_DESTINATION " although the S.S check says OK and i am able to do loads and during replication process of S.S it was saying " Function module /SDF/AL_MAP_TRANSID_LOGH does not exist." I am not sure if the above errors/observations have any link to some of Transformations and DTPs getting inactivated while the rest of DTPs are active.
Please advice
Thanks
PKPrabu,
have you solved this issue?
I am also faceing same issue after BDLS - source system change to BIQ, All DTP's are still assined to OLD-Logical system.
Please let us know how you solved it.
Appreciate your response
Shashi
Update:
Note# 1142908 fixed my issue..
Shashi
Edited by: Shashi on Sep 10, 2008 7:22 PM -
Lock on Portion and MRU in Production System
Can anyone explain why is there a lock on MRU and Portion in the production system but not in development? Can it be removed?
Hi Kunal,
The lock will appear in production system only as the standard logic checks for production client before showing up the lock.
============================
CHECK g_clnt_prod = 'P'.
============================
Lock Icon on Portion:
Following two FMs are used to determine whether the locked icon is to be displayed or not
ISU_DB_EVER_FIND_CONT_FOR_PORT,
ISU_DB_TE422_FIND_MRU_FOR_PORT
Simply put forward, if portion is being used for an ISU contract(EVER) or is associated with any MRU(TE422) lock icon will be displayed.
Lock Icon on MRU
It check in table EANLH(Install.Time Slice) with the following condition bis >= sy-datum AND ableinh = te422-termschl.If record is found, then the lock icon is displayed.
Simply put forward, if MRU is being used up in any ISU installation as on system date, the MRU lock will be displayed.
About, removing the icons, it checks for business function ISU_UTIL_1 to be active for the system. If not, the lock is not displayed in production environment .
I hope, this clarifies you doubt.
Thanks,
Ritesh -
Error while transporting transformations and datasource Urgent need Help
Hi all,
I have been working on this problem for a few days now. I created an ODS object, transformations, DTP and I am using a R/3 datasource for extraction. The ODS populates fine in the Dev box, the tranformations and the datasource are fine only in the Dev box. I tried to tranport the objects to the QA box from the Dev Box. Only the ODS transports properly. The transformations are not transported at all. Here is the error I get:
Start of the after-import method RS_TRFN_AFTER_IMPORT for object type(s) TRFN (Activation Mode)
No rule exists
Rule 1 of transformation () is not valid and is being deleted
Rule 2 of transformation () is not valid and is being deleted
Error occurred during post-handling RS_After_import for TRFN L
Ended with return code : ==> 8 <===
Please do let me know what could be the problem. Please do respond ASAP......
if you experienced this issue please let me know how you solved it or a possible work around. any help will be greatly appreciated....
So far we have been using only 3.5 objects. This is the first 7.0 (end to End) transport.Hi voodi,
I just followed the exact sequence that you mentioned. I transported the
DataSource first....then ODS(write optimized)....then transformations....then Dtp & infopackage.
data source ... no errors
2) ODS ..... no errors
3) Transformations .... Error....same as mentioned in my earlier post....
4) DTP and Infopackage ....Error similar to whats mentioned ...and it says that transformation does not exist.
Could it be an issue with Source System Translation ..... I dont know much about it .....could you please tell me what it could be and how to resolve it. I am thinking in these lines because the source system in QA3 exists in the Data Souces Folder and it has translated properly to QA3Client300. But under the Infoproviders folder (in Q03)...under my DSO the data source still shows Dev3Client 200(client not changed). If this is the issue do you think I need to talk to Basis support for asking them to modify the transport(internally)......can it be done....
please do give me your feedback....thank you. -
Transformation pointing to Quality Client in Production System Repeatedly
Hi,
I need to understand one issue which is explained in detail below step by step.
1. I created one Customized Data Source(Full Load) and replicated in BW.
2. Also created Info Objects, DSO, Info Package, Transformation, DTP.
3. While transporting this modelling to Production(first time), i unknowingly/mistakenly missed capturing the datasource in Transport Request.Sequence of transport was -
Data Source
Info Area
Info Object Catalogue
Info Object
DSO
Cube & MP
Data Source
Transformation
Info Package & DTP
Now, the moment TR for transformation was transported it threw an error - "Data Source does not exist in Quality client". Then I transported the Data Source TR and after that re-transported the transformation TR production and this error was removed.
But, there were 2 transformations in production - 1) Pointing to Production, 2) Pointing to quality.
4. I request the basis team to delete the second transformation(pointing to quality) from BW production system.
5. After that we captured Data Source and transformation in same TR and transport was successful.
6. Now, after few days we transported a change to production for same object and the system again threw the same error mentioned in point no.3 above and created two transformations again.
How to resolve this issue permanently and I also want to know the reason of this type of system behavior.Mohammed,
I did that also - please read my step no.4.
We are able to delete the transformation which was referring to quality client and then captured D.S & transformation in a single TR and transport as successful.
Now, after few days I did one change in the same transformation and transported to production.
System Behavior:
Error - " No source exist (i.e.,system referred to quality in production)".
Also again transformation was visible in production which was referring to quality client(which we already deleted with the help of BASIS).
Now since again the transformation needs to be deleted from production, our basis team is telling us to they cannot delete objects every time in production.Thus,
1. Is there any option to solve this issue permanently?
2. Also is it necessary to transport data source along with the transformation which is directly linked to data source?
Please Note: We have Dev+Quality as one client and Production. -
Transporting role menu and workbook created diurectly in production system
Hi gurus,
We have several workbooks (and queries) that are created directly in production system. thoose workbooks are connected to a role that is created in development system and transported to production system.
Now, we would like modify this role in development then tranport it on production system, but we are afraid that will be wiped out (overwrite) our production system workbooks (because the role not contains this workbook in development).
Could you please explain to us what we have to do in order to not wiped out our production workbooks.
Thank you in advancethank you, it's more clear for me...
Exactly, to have all my requests and workbook in development, I tried to use "Transport order of copy (it means transport queries from Production system to development system)", then to connect them with the corresponding roles in development, but I have the think that BW considers them as new requests when I re-transport them again on the prod.)
Could you say me if i can transport my production system queries on my development system, and manage them in this system (development) in the future.
Thank you in advance -
Reg: Inactive transformations
Hi All,
Some times while transporting objects into Productions, transformations getting inactive.
In that case to activate transformations, we will retransport inactive transformations or we will open the Client ( very rare cases) and makes the inactive transformation to active in the system.
For this shall we write a progarm to make inactive transformation to active version in production.
Can you please provide ideas how to start this.
Thx,
RajHi reddy,
i think might be the order of objects are not moving in sequence. while moving objects please make sure the order and this can be avoided.
transport sequence:
Info objects, data targets/info providers, data sources , transformations,infopackages etc
mahesh -
Inconsistencies data between ODS and RSA3 in SAP system (delta problem??)
Hi everyone,
I have a problem in my SAP BW production system. There is inconsistencies data between ODS (using tcode LISTCUBE) and Datasource in SAP system (tcode RSA3).
I'm using Datasource: 0FI_GL_10 and ODS: 0FIGL_O10.
In SAP system (using RSA3):
GL Account: 1202012091
Comp Code : 5400
Bus Area: 5401
Fiscal Year :2008
Period: 07
Accum Balance : $0
Credit Total: $350
Debit Total: $350
Sales : $0
And in ODS (using ListCube):
GL Account: 1202012091
Comp Code : 5400
Bus Area: 5401
Fiscal Year :2008
Period: 07
0BALANCE : $350 (it should be $0,shouldn't it? )
0CREDIT: $0 (it should be $350,shouldn't it? )
0DEBIT: $350
0SALES: $350 (it should be $0,shouldn't it?)
I have tried these :
1. Check if there is a start routine / routine or not in transfer or update rules....and...i get nothing
2. Check the data using tcode FBL3N..but the data is ok
And then i tried to trace the process chain and find error on delta infopackage which pull these data
Date
07.30.2008 : 231141 records --> error (ODS activation) --> request has deleted forever
07.31.2008 : 2848 records --> error (ODS activation) --> request has deleted forever
08.01.2008 : 135679 records --> error (ODS activation) --> request has deleted forever
08.02.2008 : 135679 records --> successfull repeat delta action
From 30 July until 1 August there is an error on delta infopackage because
fail to activate ODS (No SID found for value 'RIM' of characteristic 0UNIT). On 2 August someone delete the red requests and repeat the delta and success. Is there any possibilities that this problem arise because of this? If this the cause, how to bring back 2848 and 231141 records which has deleted?
Thank you and Regards,
-Satria-Hi everyone,
I have solved my problem. I executed my infopackage again (selection condition using GL Account which have wrong amount) with update mode 'Full update' and choose Scheduler > Repair Full Request and tick the checkbox.Thank you.
Regards,
-Satria- -
Re: LOCOCKPIT DATASOURCES IN DEVELOPEMENT SYSTEM
HI
<b>KINDLY READ FULL QUESTION AND CLARIFY.
</b>IN A SYSTEM LAND SCAPE OF DEVELOPMENT-QA-PRODUCTION
EG: IF I AM USING LO COCKPIT -
IF I WANT TO INSTALL A DATA SOURCE FROM R/3 WILL I BE ACTIVATING DATASOURCE IN R/3 DEVELOPMENT SYSTEM R ELSE ON PRODUCTION SYSTEM.
IF I AM DOING THE ACTIVATION ON DEVELOPMENT SYSTEM THEN WHEN WE GO TO PRODUCTION DO I AGAIN NEED TO DO THE DELTA SETTINGS AND SETUP ON PRODUCTION SYSTEM R/3--????
IF I AM EXTRACTING DATA INTO BW DEVELOPMENT SYSTEM, WHEN I TRANSPORT IT TO QA R PRODUCTION DO I AGAIN NEED TO DO SET UP LIKE REPLICATION OF DATASOURCES FROM R/3 TO PRODUCTION SYSTEM BWWHAT IS THE METHODOLOGYKINDLY EXPLAIN IN DETAIL.
SO I AM VERY MUCH CONFUSED. ABOUT WHAT R THE ACTIVITIES I NEED TO DO ON DEVELOPMENT SYSTEM R ELSE PRODUCTION SYSTEM.
KINDLY CLARIFY MY DOUBTS
THANKS AND REGARDS
NEELKAMALHi Neel,
when you install (transaction RSA5) a datasource in DEV you have to put this activation in a change request. The same for Logistic Cockpit delta activation (LBWE).
So, to have the same situation (activated datasource and delta) in QA and PRD.
On the other hand, QA and PRD are not open for any modification, therefore a direct activation is not allowed.
Clearly, when you import your change request (with the related activation), THEN you have to do a replication of the source system in BW (in order to let BW see the updated situation).
Step by step for LO:
activate the datasource in RSA5.
adjust it in RSA6.
activate delta (green light in LBWE)
transport CRs in the other environment (and take care of everything in this case...)
replicate datasource in BW
(remember that setup job and delta init and collective job have to be executed in every environment
Bye,
Roberto -
Change of Infoarea causes inactive transformations & DTPs!?
Hi all,
what I'm trying to do is simple to move one DSO object from one InfoArea to another one. The result is that I do get inactive transformations and DTPs from and to this DSO object in the following system!
Is this a system bug? Did anybody also encounter this problem? (I guess I once had this issue with another customer and we opened up an OSS message at SAP but it's some time ago and I'm not anymore aware of what the result has been...SAP OSS doesnt provide any notes so far...)
I'm happy to receive your comments,
Best regards,
bivisionwhat I'm trying to do is simple to move one DSO object from one InfoArea to another one. The result is that I do get inactive transformations and DTPs from and to this DSO object in the following system!
What do u mean by in the following system ? After moving DSO to another infoarea, if u transport that DSO alone, then the related transformations and DTPs become inactive. Its quite common.
U should collect related transformations and DTP along with DSO/Cube.
Moving ODS from 1 AC to another AC ?
Edited by: Mr. V on Feb 4, 2010 4:48 PM -
Solman 7.1 SP10 delete product system in SMSY
Hi,
Somehow in my Solman 7.1 sp10 a product system is in SMSY and not in LMDB but in this SP I´m unable to delete it using SMSY and as the product system is not in LMDB, I don´t find how to do it.
Anyone knows how to delete it.
Regards,Hi Vevek,
If it's not associated with LMDB and the data source is SLD or TMS/RFC and the date and time stamp is out-dated, then you can delete the product system in SMSY by switching to Edit mode. If the data source is LMDB, then it needs to be done via LMDB. I hope that helps to address the issue. If not please open a message with SV-SMG-SYS.
Regards,
Jay Soma.
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