Inadvertent Keyword Modifications

I keep generating dozens of new keywords by inadvertently modifying existing keyword tags. I finally figured out that all of my missing photos were re-keyworded with words that contained existing keywords only with random X, P, U tossed in somewhere. Somehow I keep getting the keyword Tags box selected by accident - I may not even see it as it can be scrolled off screen or collapsed. Bottom line is that when I start using FLAG SELECTIONS instead of actually getting the desired flag one of the keyword tags gets changed. In my case the keyword being hit was the same for which I had the collection filtered so images would "disappear" as if it took the FLAG properly. It's too easy to screw up your keyword tags this way and to misplace images. I'd like it if when images were flagged that the status would float on screen a bit longer than the current .x seconds which is so short I can't read the message before it filters out of if the FLAG blinked once before it set or some way other to see what happens before the image leaves the filtered collection. Further, it would an big improvement if the Keyword TAGS field required a dbl click or click and hold to activate it - or at least had a local easy to deselect that box so it would stop receiving inadvertent FLAG selections. i.e when it is activated you can click on recent tags, collapse the tags, collapse keywording etc but that darn box stays selected and starts taking ALL keyboard input.

I too have the problem of multiple keywords being assigned to photos, without my having assigned them. I have just rebuilt the library, as suggested, but, sadly this hasn't worked. The keyword situation remains the same. It's a major problem for me, as I am a teacher, and have smart folders assigned, using keywords, to each pupil. One pupil has multiple keywords on all his photos, and his smart folder now states that he has 13,885 photos, when there should be only about 650. I have tried to individually remove keywords from his photos, but iPhoto is not allowing me to delete them. This basically means I can't do his end of term records until I sort this out.

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How to lock versions to prevent inadvertent modification?

When I process valuable images in Aperture I like to use versions to capture different stages of the editing process. From such a version I may then derive one or more further variants either for different purposes or for comparison of different processing options. At some point I obtain one or more versions that I consider final. It would be very useful to be able to lock or "freeze" versions (not only the final ones) in that procedure in order to prevent them from being inadvertently modified.
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Thanks for the colour coding hint Léonie and Kirby Krieger. This can probably alleviate the issue and I will try it out (and provide Apple feedback).
I certainly agree with the remarks on the relativity of the "final" attribute. In any case for me the locking feature would be of more value for intermediate versions in which certain adjustments have been finalised but more work is necessary. I have the situation that starting from an intermediate version I want to compare several alternatives of rather subtle further adjustments, each of which, however, may take (me) quite some time to perform. When looking at the different alternatives in the browser view, they are so similar that you hardly can distinguish them. Here it may easily happen that when one wants to continue to work, the wrong version is selected and you do not realise immediately. This may be particularly relevant when the work had to be interrupted for quite some time. Again I admit that systematic usage of color coding can help.
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Regards
Philippe

Keywords - inadvertently added when synching files

Using Lightroom 2.6 in x64 Vista
Let me explain my problem:
When I move files from camera to disk I put them in folders named:
09 05 12
09 08 15, etc.
the number is the date the images were captured in year:month;day format, so they sort themselves easily into date order.
These are all on a dedicated drive which I call thePhotoshop drive. While the files are on this disk, I add keywords (using File Info in Bridge) and make gross adjustments in Bridge and occasionally generate a PSD in Photoshop which is saved to the same directory.
After I have added keywords, made adjustments and backed up the files to DVD, I then use Windows Explorer to move the directories (09 05 05, etc) from the Photoshop drive to another dedicated drive I call the Lightroom drive and put them in a folder for the year: 2003, 2004 ... up to 2009.
So folder 2009 will have in it sub-folders named: 09 05 12, 09 08 15, etc.
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I have looked in Auto Import Settings and there are no keywords specified so they are not originating there, even though I don't use the import function. But clearly the extra two keywords (which have affected almost 1,000 images) are coming from someplace but I can't figure out where. There seems to be no obvious other place to specify default keywords in Lightroom.
Can anyone tell me where Lightroom might be picking these up and how to clear them so the are not added the next time I bring in more images?
Thanks,
Bill

Hal,
As I said, I didn't use the import function per se, but I think you're right.
I think where I messed up was looking at File > Auto Import > Auto Import Settings to see if there were keywords saved and there were none. So I assumed that was all I needed to check.
But, if I go to File > Import Photos From Disk, select a random image and proceed from there, two keywords appear in the dialog box in the next window. So Auto Import and Import Photos from Disk must maintain separate lists of keywords and even if one is cleared, the other apparently is not. I suppose that might be considered a convenience, but it's really more of a snare for the unwary.
If that is so, then even though I merely moved the directories over with Explorer and then used Synchronize, the synchronize function must pull the keywords from Import from Disk without asking if I want to use them when it finds new files. That could be a problem because occasionally I open a file from Lightroom in Photoshop, edit and save it back with a different name like xyz version 2.psd. Lightroom will not find it unless I synchronize the folder. That might result in the revision picking up unwanted keywords, if synchronize pulls settings from Import. I'll check the next time I do it.
For safety I'll also have to get used to using the Import dialog rather than using the Windows Explorer > synchronize trick.
Thanks for your help,
Bill

Keyword management - how do you move keywords up one level?

How do you move keywords up one level in the hierarchy? Sometimes when working quickly, keywords and subgroups of keywords get inadvertently highlighted and moved as a child under another keyword or group. I can't figure out how to move them back out again to the root level.

I can't figure out how to move them back out again to the root level.
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Short dump error in program SAPMV50A after modification

Dear gurus
i have done some modification in vl02n through Badi and it is working fine in Development server.
when i transport it to quality server and test it
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issing RAISING Clause in Interface
   Program                                 SAPMV50A
   Include                                 MV50AFDB
   Row                                     14
   Module type                             (FORM)
   Module Name                             LIKP_SELECT
rigger Location of Exception
   Program                                 SAPMV50A
   Include                                 MV50AFDB
   Row                                     20
   Module type                             (FORM)
   Module Name                             LIKP_SELECT

Duplicate Italic Keywords in Bridge

You asked....
In the keyword panel,I have the same keyword in several places in the hierarchy. I think some came in as legacy keywords, and others, I inadvertently created the same keyword twice. These duplicates appear in different parts of the whole keyword list. Now so I don't have all those confusing duplicates, and so I can find stuff, I would like to delete the extra keywords. The duplicates appear in italics. I can make them persistent, but I can't get rid of them. I've tried all sorts of things like finding all the files with the keyword in question, manually deleting the words and then re entering. I can delete the words, but they will magically reappear. What I want to do is consolidate multiple, duplicate kewords. Is that possible? Any ideas?Thanks
Here is the summary of details and how to fix this.
When you create keywords in Bridge, the metadata is stored in the xmp file in unicode 8 format.
While that sounds like software techno babble, a point emerges.
When Bridge reads the xmp file it reports on keywords that already exist within your own keyword library and this is indicated by a floating italic keyword.
While this does not harm anything, it is a mess to read and organize.
Here is the fix.
You must follow these steps EXACTLY or you may create the need to re-keword files.
1. Create a new UNIQUE keyword. I suggest capital "AAAA" (no quotes) since this places the keyword at the very top of your keywords.
2. Do a Find with the keyword of interest. (typically one of the italic keywords that appear but choose the keyword in your Keyword Library and Not the italic keyword)
3. Once the files are found, check the keyword in the Filter panel ON THE LEFT side of the Bridge screen where the keyword lists appear. (your Keyword Library is the panel on the right of the screen)
4. Select ALL in the browser window.
5. On the right side of the screen in the Keyword Library apply "AAAA" (or unique keyword of your choice) to the selected files. (no quotes) WAIT!.... for Bridge to COMPLETELY finish writing the metadata. (thousands of files can take some time, just watch the lower left progress indicator carefully!!!! and if you have tens of thousands consider using this technique to individual folders rather than entire root directories BE WISE!.... too many files can run Bridge out of memory and create a new problem)
6. On the left side of the screen in the Filter keyword lists panel, check AAAA.
7. On the right side of the screen in the keywords library panel navigate to where you would prefer to have the duplicate keyword located just so you know where it is.... Do NOT apply.
8. On the right side of the screen where the italic duplicate keyword appears (alphabetically as it works out) uncheck the duplicate italic keyword and WAIT for bridge to COMPLETELY finish erasing the italic keyword.
Here's the trick.
What you have done is made a unique selection based a unique find and applied the unique keyword AAAA and have instructed Bridge to show all files within the unique search that NOW have the keyword AAAA and have erased the keyword that you used to do a Find, ie, the duplicate. (you will see that the unique word you used to do the Find will now be italic and "0" in the Filter keywords lists on the left side of the screen.
All the photos will remain selected because they are now identified by AAAA.
Now for the next step.
9. In the Keyword Library on the right side of the screen, Navigate to the place where you wish the duplicate keyword to be located in step 7.
10. Check the keyword and apply the keyword from the place where you want it (step 7) and WAIT for Bridge to COMPLETELY finish writing the metadata keyword. (the keyword lists on the left will no longer be italic and will be the exact number of files you selected)
11. IMPORTANT!!!!!...... now uncheck AAAA in the keyword library to remove AAAA from the Filter keyword lists on the left. YOU MUST DO THIS AND NOT FORGET.
(verify that AAAA is now italic and has "0" files)
Believe it or not, you are done!
You have now removed the italic keyword on the right permanently.
Oddly enough, you won't see the italic keyword on the right go away, why is that you ask?
The italic duplicate keyword you see is in Ram and will not go away until you Quit and ReLaunch Bridge.
Like magic, the duplicate italic keyword has vanished.
You must repeat this technique for EVERY file that has a duplicate keyword whether you created it or not otherwise the duplicate italic keyword will once again reappear.
I VERY STRONGLY SUGGEST.... that you repeat these steps For ONE duplicate keyword Find at a time, in fact I cannot suggest this strongly enough. One Keyword At A Time.
While you can use this technique for more than one keyword at a time, you will only cause more work as you go through this process.
Sound complicated?..... its not..... do this once or twice and see that it is easier done than said.
PS
I have more than a million files keyworded and had to use this technique myself. (I devised this technique out of pure necessity and if followed and understood.... it works perfectly)

Workflow... A couple weeks ago I decided it was time to reload from scratch, so I re-installed Windows 7. Which meant re-installing Photoshop and all that stuff. Which meant it did all the updates.
I've been doing other stuff, so I'm not sure I've been in Bridge where I'd have noticed the problem in the last week or so, which is about how long I've had all the new installs up and running...
So, it's a brute force "fix", but I opened Bridge and dithe "reset your preferences" thing. Then immediately un-installed all the Photoshop stuff and re-installed all the Photoshop stuff. When I restarted Bridge I pointed the cache at a different partition......
I have NO idea WHICH thing fixed it, but no more phantom folders... Curt, your idea about workflow finally got me thinking WHY was I only seeing recent folders as phantoms rather than ALL the ones I'd fiddled with... And the ones I WAS seeing were all recent - in the last week or so. So WHY it'd make any difference I don't know, but it appears to be happy again. I'll try fiddling with stuff in Lightroom, make sure no new phantom folders show up, then if it's good I"ll point things back to the "cache" partition...
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Why are most of my keywords not included when I export images?

Why are most of my keywords not included when I export images?
Since starting with Lightroom 1, I've entered keywords into either of the two fields between "keyword tags" and "keyword suggestions" in the keywording panel. I was unaware that some keywords are more equal than others, or that Lightroom offered (or has added?) hierarchy support.
I recently stumbled into the news (to me) that Lightroom tags can be organized into a hierarchy, so I exported my keywords to a text file to examine. I hadn't unwittingly created any hierarchies, but an astounding fraction of the keywords were within square brackets. Sure enough, if I export an image, keywords within square brackets are omitted from the output (jpeg) file. How nice. Since I began with Lightroom 1, I've added nearly 1600 keywords.. Too bad most of them are coded wrong... so as not to accompany output that I create.
1.     What was I supposed to do, as a photographer beginning to use Lightroom, to enter keywords simply but reliably: what I type is what I get? I'd expected that's what the "just type here" interface would provide.
I especially dislike obtaining erratic results: most keywords are in square brackets, but a few are not. Of course, when I use a simplified interface, I should expect not to have access to some of the options or features. However, I shouldn't inadvertently trigger undocumented behavior.
2.     Does the Adobe reference help system say how to enter keywords simply and reliably, in its documentation of the keywording panel? I don't find my answer under the Keywords topic, within Home / Using Photoshop Lightroom 3 / Organizing photos in the catalog.
(I NOW realize that the instructions for the "Create/Edit keyword tags" dialog mention exporting. However, that's not the method I was using.)
Dick Rawson

I'm afraid that I distracted you with my background mention of hierarcharial keywords; I'm not asking about them.
I've entered keywords for several years of using Lightroom. Suddenly, this week, I find that most (yet not all) of them have the attribute of "don't include the keyword in an exported file's metadata." I never intended to ask for that; I thought all keywords will stay with the file and its offspring, and that's what I wanted.
So I'm asking:
1.     What did I do "wrong" to induce Lightroom to give the keywords that attribute? I never intended to ask it to.
2.     Where does Adobe document how to enter keywords reliably so that they stay with the file on output? I can't find that Adobe does.
> Can you be more clear about keywords in square brackets? I know when you export the keywords as a list you can get a normalized data file that uses punctuation and tabs as delimiters...
I did export the keywords into such a list: most keywords in the plain-text list have square brackets surrounding them, indicating keywords that will be omitted from metadata of any image that Lightroom exports.
My concern is not that the brackets are there. They encode the attribute of "don't include the keyword in an exported file's metadata," and recognizing that attribute concerns me.
> ...but I've never seen keywords in image files or in the interface rendered so.
I haven't, either.
Dick Rawson

Bug: Keywords behave incorrectly after "Read Metadata from File"

(Happens in LR3.4 RC and probably also in previous versions... but I am not sure if it happened in LR2)
The problem seems tro be somthing like de-sync of database status and what we see on the screen.
1) Let's say we have a photo with keyword "abc"
2) Click in the Keyword List on the arrow around the "abc" keyword to show only photos with this keyword (single one), leave the filter on this settings
2) Save Metadata to File
3) Edit XMP in an external application, add new keyword "def"
4) Read Metadate from File
5) Now what happens is: The photos disappers from the screen as if it lost the "abc" keyword (weird), but if you look at the Keyword List, the "abc" keyword has still 1 photo attached to it. Also, if you release the filter and find the photo, it clearly has the "abc" and "def" keywords in the Keywording panel. And you can search for this keyword in the text filter (works correctly), but if you click on the arrow around the "abc" keyword, the photo is not shown.
6) If you restart the Lightroom, it will work correctly again.
I have an own application that is able to modify the XMP and the modifications may not be perfect, but in my opinion, this shouldn't happen when reading the metadata. If any developer is reading this, I can supply a file with original and changed metadata for debugging.
It would be great it this could be resolved.
Thanks!

Please do report your find with the details you state (well done!) here: https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform
Thanks.........

Importing IPTC keywords into iPhoto

I have >10,000 photos from my research project with imbedded metadata including four keywords. These are in the IPTC field separated by commas.
keyword_1, keyword_2, keyword_3, keyword_4
When I import these into iPhoto I get a single keyword
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keyword_1, keyword_2, keyword_3, keyword_4
keyword_1
keyword_2
keyword_3
keyword_4
The four individual keywords are what I want but I have to click on the keyword of each photo to achieve this. Extremely time consuming.
Does anyone know if iPhoto can be made to import each keyword individually or a faster way to make iPhoto convert these to the correct format? I do have the ability to edit the IPTC data via terminal scripts so I could modify the original IPTC data if I only knew what iPhoto needs to import properly.
I tried using semicolons to separate the keywords.
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Hi Phil,
I originally started this on your ExifTool forum. A chap there graciously provided, and helped to refine, a script using ExifTool which has me 95% of the way to my goal.
I'm not a programmer so my understanding of the script is incomplete. It first extracts the data from a csv file and then uses ExifTool to write that data to the jpg files. I copied what I believe to be the relevant sections hoping that maybe someone here could spot the error.
PHYLUM_CSV=`grep ${BASEIMAGE} "${RUBRICFILE}" | cut -d , -f 9`
CLASS_CSV=`grep ${BASEIMAGE} "${RUBRICFILE}" | cut -d , -f 10`
ORDER_CSV=`grep ${BASEIMAGE} "${RUBRICFILE}" | cut -d , -f 11`
FAMILY_CSV=`grep ${BASEIMAGE} "${RUBRICFILE}" | cut -d , -f 12`
KEYWORDS_CSV="1_PHYLUM_${PHYLUM_CSV}, 2_CLASS_${CLASS_CSV}, 3_ORDER_${ORDER_CSV}, 4_FAMILY_${FAMILY_CSV}, 5_GENUS_${GENUS_CSV}, 6_SPECIES_${SPECIES_CSV}"
fi
CAPTION_ABSTRACT_F=`exiftool -s -s -s -caption-abstract "${FILESPEC}"`
KEYWORDS_F=`exiftool -s -s -s -caption-abstract "${FILESPEC}"`
SUBJECT_F=`exiftool -s -s -s -caption-abstract "${FILESPEC}"`
exiftool -m -P -overwrite_original_in_place \
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-subject="${KEYWORDS_CSV}" \
"${FILESPEC}"
Here is part of the ExifTool output for one of the files processed with the script. I edited out parts which I thought irrelevant.
bash-3.2$ exiftool -g 0M9I5019.jpg | less -i
---- ExifTool ----
ExifTool Version Number : 8.50
---- File ----
File Name : 0M9I5019.jpg
Directory : .
File Size : 527 kB
File Modification Date/Time : 2003:11:01 20:54:18-05:00
File Permissions : rwx------
File Type : JPEG
MIME Type : image/jpeg
Exif Byte Order : Big-endian (Motorola, MM)
Current IPTC Digest : e6ec6c038fb4c40ebc0252d089a24f1e
---- IPTC ----
Object Name : 0M9I5019, Petrosia (Petrosia) sp. 1895
Keywords : 1_PHYLUM_Porifera, 2_CLASS_Demospongiae, 3_ORDER_Haplosclerida, 4_FAMILY_Petrosiidae, 5_GENUS_Petrosia (Petrosia), 6_SPECIES_sp. 1895
Caption-Abstract : Malaysia, depth 10, depth range 6-10m, wet weight 1168
Application Record Version : 4
---- XMP ----
XMP Toolkit : Image::ExifTool 8.50
Location : 04 20.67N, 113 53.76E
Description : Malaysia, depth 10, depth range 6-10m, wet weight 1168
Subject : 1_PHYLUM_Porifera, 2_CLASS_Demospongiae, 3_ORDER_Haplosclerida, 4_FAMILY_Petrosiidae, 5_GENUS_Petrosia (Petrosia), 6_SPECIES_sp. 1895
Title : 0M9I5019, Petrosia (Petrosia) sp. 1895
The keywords are written into both the IPTC:Keywords and XMP:Subject fields of the metadata. I'm not sure why they are written to both or which field iPhoto imports keywords from.
I added the 1_PHYLUM_, etc tags so that the keywords would sort in the correct order in iPhoto.
Strangely enough, the keywords are imported into Picasa as individual keywords but sort in reverse order.
I'm studying your exiftool faq now.
Thanks,
Paul

After Import in LR 4.2 all images have development modifications

When I import images no matter if RAW or JPG, when I go to the development module all images have various modifications on all slidedrs from exposure to saturation. I haven't changed any settings or global settings but each slider will already be modified. Previously when importing images all sliders were set to ZERO, but now all of those sliders are anywhere from - to + modification. Can someone please help?
LR 4.2, Windows 7 64-bit, 24GB ram, Catalog has been optimized, Develop Settings and Metadata setting are set to none on import.
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If that setting is NOT checked, then perhaps you've inadvertently changed the default develop settings.....to check this take one of the adjusted images into the Develop module, then press and hold the Shift key. The Reset button at bottom right of the screen will change to "Reset (Adobe)"....click on it and see if the sliders revert to zero. If they do, you need to reset the default develop settings....Menu Bar>Develop>Set Default Settings, then click on "Restore Adobe Default Settings".

Global selection modifications problem in LR2

Hello All,
I have discovered a bug in LR 2 (including the past and current version 2.3) which I would like to confirm if others have encountered this issue or know of a fix or workaround.
When I select a range of images or all the images and then I wish to change globally apply a rating color or star ranking etc only the first image in the selection is modified with my new settings. I am viewing in the grid mode in all cases.
For example 1) I select all ten pictures in a collection. 2) Select the #6 key to apply a rating color (RED in this case) 3) End result is only the first image in the entire selection will be given the rating color I have chosen instead of all ten images.
In LR1 the procedure I describe was possible and I used it on a daily basis to globally apply rating, stars, metadata (ie copyright info) etc to a range or entire selection of images.
At this time I have to individually select each image one at a time to apply my ratings etc. This is a time consuming and painfully process.
I regret that LR2 does not maintain the color ratings I applied in Iview but per a suggestion from Peter I found a workaround which is to create a keyword for the range of images in Iview and then upon import to LR2 I can find the images via the keyword. That works for finding the set of images but I still have to apply the color rating in LR2 and at this time it can only be done one at time not globally. The trick I described is also a great solution as an additional method for tagging images with metadata which will readable by other applications when the primary metadata or tagging may have been unique to the first application used by the user.
Is this indeed a bug in LR2 and if so has it been documented by Adobe yet?
So far I have tried and failed with the following.
1) Created new catalog imported new images which have never been in Lightroom 1 or 2.
2) Reset color label presets in preferences menu
Note LR1 will allow me to do global modifications to a range or images or all images which I select.
Thanks,
Tony S.

Tony,
Are you trying to make those changes on your second monitor? The grid has to be on the primary monitor for changes to multiply-selected images to take effect. They tell me that this isn't a bug, but a feature.
Hal

DNG file modification date not changed by writing metadata?

I use LR 2.7 on Windows XP.   To my surprise, I just noticed that writing metadata updates (e.g., new keywords) from LR to the DNG files does NOT appear to update the file modification date, which suggests obvious issues for backup strategies (yes, I understand that a changed modification date introduces other backup issues).   I have verfifed that the metatdata does indeed change in the DNG files, so I am mystified.   Can someone shed some light on this?   Thanks.
js
www.johnshorephoto.com

Yes, I explicitely invoke "save metadata to file".   Furthemore, I have checked the behavior by (a) modifying DNGs in LR; (b) saving the metatdata to the DNG; (c) creating a new LR catalog and importing the revised DNGs.    The metadata changes do show up in the re-imported DNGs (and the metadata field "Metadata Date" correctly shows the recent change). Morevover, the file sizes do change (wth the metadata changes) even though the modification dates shown in windows explorer do not change.
However, I just redid the experiment to double check, and discovered an important clue - the mysterious behavior occurs when the DNG files are on a NAS device (in particular a Netgear ReadyNAS Duo.   To summarize:
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js

Best practice to develop & keyword Jpeg files - Use of virtual copies

There is no sidecar file attached to Jpeg file and I understand all modification on the Jpeg slightly deterioriate the file quality.
Therefore, is it advisable to use vitual copies for all modifications?
Would use use them for trial and errors procedure, then apply whatever settings retained to the Jpeg file?
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What about keywords applied at several stages before and after usig the develop module.
Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Would you advise to store the metadata in the file itself IN ADDITION to where they are located in the catalog?
How to proceed?
Would it make a difference in the export process?
Storing metadata in the file itself is a good idea if you ever think you might share the photo with others, or with another application (other than Lightroom). And I think almost everyone will be doing one of these things at some point.
You would want to turn on the option that automatically stores the metadata in xmp. Edit > Catalog Settings > Metadata, check the box that says Automatically Write Changes into XMP
Would it make a difference in the export process? Probably unnoticeable fractions of a second.

Keywording Issue in Lightroom5

Ran across an issue with keywords in Lightroom 5 and wondered if anyone had some advise. When I export an image with existing keywords they showup in the file properties when I open the new image in Windows Explorer. When I re-import that new file back into Lightroom I find that none of the original keywords are visible. This had not been an issue in previous versions of Lightroom - wondering whats going on here.
Thanks for any help in advance!
Kevin

The most likely cause is that you are using a metadata preset that is inadvertantly deleting the keywords.
Let us know if we are barking up the wrong tree.
Tony Jay

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