INCONSISTENCY IN COLOR

the color on the color picker look brighter that when actually used.
For example, when I pick yellow, i expect it to be that color but on the document it turns out to be faded yellow.
How can I get the look just like from the color palette?
I suspect there is a problem with my color setting.
Please help.

When you use the Toolbar Color Picker you can select color as RGB, Lab, or CMYK. The color mode of the Swatch you'll make or the color you select depend on where your cursor is in the picker.
So here I get an RGB color that's out of the CMYK gamut because my cursor is in an RGB field:
If I insert my cursor in a CMYK field I get the closest in gamut CMYK color, note the Add CMYK Swatch button:

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I posted bigger files here if this is easier to follow
http://www.gballard.net/windows_srgb/
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I have a problem concerning inconsistent color definitions when I print a book file on the Linux system.
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Urrrrrg.
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