Inconsistent - Work Centre's Long-term Planning (KAKO-KAPLPL)

Hi Experts,
we're upgarding from SAP4.5 to ERP6.
I reviewed OSS note 950834, but it's not related.
We extracted from SAP4.5 Work Centre - Capacity Header - Long-term
Planning.
It's ticked (X) in CR03, but blank () in table KAKO-KAPLPL.
We loaded into ERP6 Work Centre - Capacity Header - Long-term Planning.
It's blank () in CR03, but ticked (X) in table KAKO-KAPLPL.
Please advise the fix for this issue.
Thanks,
Thomas

Dear Thomas,
I suggest you to check relevant OSS notes. Also creaete a OSS message for this issue.
thanks and regards
muru

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