InCopy CS4

We're currently running InDesign CS4. We've not previously had a copy of InCopy, but need to add it to one workstation. All I can find to purchase is InCopy CS5 or CS5.5 and I'm told that this is incompatible with InDesign CS4. We are not in a position to upgrade our five current CS4 users to CS5; that would also force an upgrade of hardware from 32 bit to 64 bit systems and that's way out of the budget. All we need is one copy of InCopy CS4, not five new workstations with CS5 upgrades plus a new InCopy CS5. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Many thanks!

Thanks anyway Bob. I'll keep on the lookout for an unopened/unused IC CS4 (a.k.a. The Holy Grail), but we'll likely have to wait 'til we can get a budget approved for overall hardware/software upgrades.
As to the IC CS5 to ID CS4 compatibility subject addressed in socalgecko's reply:
My understanding is that an editor can use InCopy CS5 to open the designer's InDesign CS4 files, but the files are converted on opening and therefore no longer backward compatible to the designer's CS4 - in other words, it's a one way ONLY compatibility, defeating the whole purpose of the workflow.
Is that pretty much right?
If anyone has any other suggestions (or has the Holy Grail unopened sitting in a desk drawer) I'd love to hear from you.
Many thanks!

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I gave up with CS4, but now I would like to figure out what Im doing wrong. There must be some setting that Im missing.
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3. If I have photoshop 32bit program already open, then I can open PSD files from folders and/or drop them in.
4. How do I make the 32bit my default when opening a PSD file, when no photoshop program is open? You can not choose 32bit as a default.
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I posted the below on an earlier thread, but thought I would actually create a new one for this problem.
Hi, I am also experiencing crashes with InCopy in Windows. We recently bought the software in my office, having used the free trial to test it on our machines, which worked fine. However since we started using it last week, we have had nothing but trouble.
I'd guess 1 out of 5 times we try to save the file, or check it back in, our InCopy will crash (after we wait a good 20 mins to make sure it's not just taking its time), which means we have to force quit the file. When opening up InCopy again, Ic recovers the file, and when it comes back it is locked to the user, but has a little yellow triangle meaning it is out of date (recognising that it is saved somewhere). When we try to update the file we get the dialog 'This is not a valid InDesign Interchange document' (or words to that effect).
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We are both running Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 3, the processer speed of both our machines is above the recommended spec, and I have 1 GB RAM while my colleague has 2 GB. We are updated to InCopy CS4 6.0.3.
Has anyone else been experiencing this at all?
If any more information is needed please let me know. We're running behind on our production schedule already, and if the problem isn't solved, we're going to have to go back to using print-outs to mark-up changes (which nobody wants). We've tried the recommended troubleshooting - deleting Ic preferences, removing links and then creating new assignments, increasing virtual memory...
We work on directories, and so there is quite a large volume of text being worked on, as well as every line being tagged with XML so it can be exported. Could this be having an effect?
I'd appreciate anyone getting back to me with suggestions please!
Thanks,
Sarah

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My client and I are trying to establish an InCopy CS4 (PC) / InDesign CS4 (Mac) workflow. Neither of us has ever used InCopy and we are all getting frustrated now that our first production cycle has come and gone and the client is not recouping the money they invested on this software. Our trial system was successful for awhile and then it just stopped. The client says she can't open the icma/icml files and they need the indd file. So I send a new batch of files with the indd included and still no luck.
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Don't zip the files, that won't work.ID/IC is meant to work on a local server w/local staff. For a remote workflow you have to use a special technique.
After you create the assignment, use the Package for InCopy command in the Assignments panel.That creates an ICAP file that you send to the client.
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When you open the IDAP file, it unpacks, looks for the INDD file (be sure not to rename or move it in the meantime), and updates the stories w/the editors changes.
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http://www.lynda.com/home/DisplayCourse.aspx?lpk2=651
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Hi
I have a plugin for InCopy CS4. In this plugin, I like to prevent the input or the change of text in tables. This works in the layout window, I can detect if the user clicks into a table and then I prevent the input.
- How can I do this in the Galley or Story window?
- Can I prevent the user to open a table for editing the text? I mean the opening of the table via arrow.
- Can I prevent the user to input text into a table cell?
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Kind regards
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That's sweet! It's been frustrating hitting the dead link instead of actual help.
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