Incorporating both Arch Linux and a package repository onto one DVD.

Dear Arch Linux community,
I would like to tell you a little background information about myself before I start to talk about my actual subject. I know that this part of my message does not belong here, but it is my own ritual to do it like this in my first message in every community. I hope I can make friends with people here and try not to harm this community in any way. Thank you for reading this.
I am a 16-year-old male student from Finland and addicted to GNU/Linux and freeware / open source software. My previous experience with GNU/Linux is fairly large; from thin client Debian GNU/Linux administrator to kernel hacker and software developer. My delight is music, particularly writing and composing my own music tracks which vary from classic chiptunes to acid trance and dance beats. Arch Linux seems to be a great GNU/Linux operating system for me, because I am looking for a GNU/Linux distribution that does not focus on desktop, but rather on simplicity and lightweight solutions. I also do not fear "bleeding edge" software which is a positive point for Arch Linux compared to Debian GNU/Linux. As you can probably notice I have been using Debian GNU/Linux before I considered Arch Linux. However now I am here hoping for a totally new experience from Arch Linux.
Enough with my foreword, I would like to now go back to the actual subject. Usually I use DVD media for GNU/Linux images to have both the installer for the GNU/Linux distribution and the main package repository to make installations faster and to have the possibility for an offline installation. As I see, Arch Linux provides only CD images which are approximately 160MB in size, making me to think about incorporating Arch Linux's "Core" and "Extra" package repositories to fill up the remaining 4GB on the DVD. If the "Core" package repository is already included in the Arch Linux CD image, please forgive my lack of information as this is the first time I have ever entered to the world of Arch Linux.
My question is as follows: Is it possible to incorporate Arch Linux and a package repository onto one DVD while retaining the ability to install Arch Linux from that DVD? If positive, how should I go on to do it?
Thank you in advance!
Last edited by Amplify.EXE (2007-11-09 20:53:44)

No niin, tervetuloa arch-mailmaan.
Ok, I better stop at one sentence before someone gets mad at me :roll:.
To answer your question, yes. It is quite possible to put something like that together, heck I think someone suggested we should distribute those some time, but we decided not to (don't quote me, I'm too lazy to read the archives right now) since in most cases pacman will get the job done will job done with less bandwidth waste, and distributing huge snapshots isn't really too conducive to the whole rolling-release thing.
You might want to check out archiso [1], the install scripts [2], and one of my sample archiso configurations [3] that effectively creates an install CD. Now, keep in mind that archiso isn't the *current* way installers are created, but I think it's much more straightforward to work with than what we're using right now. That said, we currently use archboot to create the CDs, so that may be worth taking a look at as well. There is also a really old installer remastering wiki article [4], though not terribly relevant, you could still use a similar technique to pull apart one of our recent install iso's and remaster it with whatever packages you want. Anyhow, if you'd like help with this, I'd be more than happy to give you a hand (I need some more test-cases for archiso...), or if you look at it and go "gee, this is dumb", don't be afraid to send patches. Just get in touch with me through email, jabber, irc, or whatever.
Good luck
[1] http://projects.archlinux.org/git/?p=ar … a=summary)
[2] http://projects.archlinux.org/git/?p=in … ;a=summary
[3] http://code.neotuli.net/gitweb/?p=archi … stall-conf
[4] http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Rem … nstall_ISO

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So, if you would be willing to provide a patch against git (http://projects.archlinux.org/?p=initsc … ;a=summary) which extrapolates the pieces you need, we could get that applied, and you simply need to dump your overriding functions in /etc/rc.d/functions.d/. NOTE: submit the patch to the bug tracker, it will get lost if you just post it on the forums.
Alternatively, you can just tell us (http://bugs.archlinux.org/) which pieces you want extrapolated, but this will take much longer, as I don't think anyone dealing with this stuff is really gung-ho about splash support.
I will probably provide a patch after i studied the code a little deeper The /etc/rc.d/functions.d/ solution seems the right way to implement it.
phrakture wrote:
lexiw wrote:-Patch killall5 to add the support to ignore pids. The patch is really small and the one used by Ubuntu is http://patches.ubuntu.com/s/sysvinit/ex … ids.dpatch. There is a package in AUR that uses a different patch: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=16445. I tested it and so far it worked fine, no problems to be reported.
Why do we need a patched killall5? Splashy gets killed early during the shutdown process and the whole purpose of having a splash system is defeated. Currently Splashy cannot handle the reboot/shutdown.
This seems a little silly to me. I'm sure there's 10 or 20 other ways you could implement the same functionality without needing to patch a quasi-critical binary just for splash support. The patch affects all users. Splashy does not.
I could not find an alternative solution by myself, as i stated my Linux knowledge isn't more than average. If you could provide me some hints I'll be happy to do some further research on the issue and provide a patch. I'll be glad to drop the sysvinit-mod dependency.
Without the right know-how i just went the "mainstream way" and did what Debian/Ubuntu did.
Edit:
I didn't know you could ovveride functions, this will be a great boost for the initscripts-splash project Thank you!
Last edited by lexiw (2008-05-22 17:35:15)

Arch Linux and ARM

We have been talking to the Arch Linux ARM team and have decided to refine our policy around that architecture.
The Other Architectures forum has been moved into the Technical Issues and Asssistance category, and the ARM sticky has been updated with clearer direction about our policy.
If you are an ARM user, please take a couple of minutes to familiarize yourself with the updated policy. Both the Arch mod team and the ALARM team feel that this is the best way to ensure that assistance is sought from the community that is best placed to help.

Whoa, everyone's reading far too much into what I said. I just meant that I got it installed under the chroot in android following the steps that were on the plugapps site; the actual page doesn't seem to exist anymore, but I found similar instructions here. I meant that I thought it was cool that I had a functioning build of pacman running locally on the device. Didn't mean to imply that it was a native install.
Although I understand the reaction as I'm watching the developments in this thread with just as much anticipation.
Last edited by jb (2011-06-30 18:00:45)

[Solved] RAID 0 with Arch Linux and Intel Matrix Storage Manager

I just bought a brand new DELL Studio desktop and it has 2 500 HD's which I would like to run in RAID 0. I've setup the BIOS to run the RAID 0. Now I want the arch linux installation to recognise the volume. I followed the guide on the wikipage
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ins … _Fake-RAID
but /dev/mapper doesn't show anything after modprobing the modules and installing dmraid. My controller is a intel matrix storage controller, so what module should I modprobe because sata_sil isn't the right one.
Regards
André
Last edited by fettouhi (2008-12-15 10:57:18)

you have a separate /boot partition, so your menu.lst must say :
root (hd0,0) # the partition including /boot
kernel /vmlinuz26 ... # without leading /boot
initrd /kernel26.img # without leading /boot
(in grub, / is the root of the partition that was set with the root command, your vmlinuz26 and kernel26.img are in (hd0,0)/, not in (hd0,0)/boot/)
did you install from core CD or from FTP ?
there was a dmraid update few weeks ago that modified device names that dmraid creates :
it add "p" before the number of the partition (your iws...Volume0 don't change, but your iws...Volume0# change to iws...Volume0p#)
if you installed from core CD, you will only need to add this "p" when you will upgrade dmraid (or the full system)
(you will then need to edit both /boot/grub/menu.lst and /etc/fstab)
if you installed from FTP, you need to add this "p" now, as you installed last version of dmraid

Dual boot arch linux and windows

I recently installed arch linux. However, I have a windows 7 installation on a separate hard drive (/dev/sdb), and it is not detected by grub. I have tried to use os-prober, and grub-mkconfig to generate my configuration file, but I think these programs are in grub2-common, and this conflicts with the package grub. When I do uninstall grub, and replace with grub2-common, I can generate the config file, but grub brings me to the grub prompt, and will not boot. Can I use grub-mkconfig without uninstalling grub, or do I have to create grub.cfg and edit it manually? Thank you in advance!

skunktrader wrote:
grub reads /boot/grub/menu.lst. You need to edit this file manually to add windows 7
Read this
It works! You are a genius!!!!!!! Thank you so much!!

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