Independent clips

Hi everyone. How do you make independent clips so that they stay permanent in the sequence without re-rendering/ asking for the sources when you move or open the project?

Don't think so, although I spent a bunch of time rearranging media and graphic files yesterday (keeping them on the same drive, but moving around in folders) and when I reopened the project, fcp had maintained the connection between the clips and the media (which surprised me).
First, fcp uses the term "independent" in a different way so perhaps you might avoid using this term.
At the moment, this is the way fcp works. Fooling with elements of an ongoing fcp project at the finder level is dangerous if you don't know what you're doing (and sometimes even if you do) and is not recommended.
Now occasionally there can be a problem and fcp will lose the "connection" with some of the media when it shouldn't (when you haven't moved or renamed it at the finder level). If there is happening to you, post back with more specifics and will try and troubleshoot.
You can always export a selfcontained quicktime with item settings of clips or sequences which you can then import back into fcp. Perhaps this method will work for you.
Also, nesting material can sometimes help you avoid excessive rerendering.
Hope this is of some help.

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Subclips of Independent Clip all have the SAME audio

I have a bunch of DV streams I want to edit in FCP, but I discovered that the audio is out of sync in most of them. Each stream has multiple shots in it, each of which I want to make into a subclip. Here's how I approached the problem:
1. I gave the out-of-sync DV stream a reel name in the Browser.
2. I opened the clip in the Viewer, set In and Out points to the extremes, and dragged it into the timeline.
3. I unlinked the video and audio, shifted the video to get it in sync, cropped the ends of the video and audio to start and end at the same time, and relinked the video with the audio.
4. I selected Make Independent Clip from the context menu.
5. I dragged the synced clip back into the Browser and changed its name.
6. I opened the new clip in the Viewer, selected the individual shots with In and Out points, and made each into a subclip.
For each clip, the first subclip I created in this way worked perfectly, but for some reason the subsequent subclips all have the same audio as the first subclip. What am I doing wrong?
~ Joel

I had the sync problem when capturing DV footage until I found and deleted the FC preferences file. I found this worked for several FC problems so I found a utility that saves the prefs before a problem starts. Then you can just replace the corrupted prefs file with the saved good one and you're fixed. I posted this problem to the forum and never found an answer as to why the capture sync gets hosed so I went with what works. I would work on why the captured footage is out of sync in the first place as described above.
Sorry but I do not have an answer for your sub-clip problem, just questions. Did you capture your DV tape as one individual file? Is the audio recorded on tape 48k and captured as 48k? I know I used to do the same thing as you to correct the offset... unlink the video & audio and bump the audio track until the sync was corrected. As long as I edited the clips on the timeline, everything stayed in sync and I just worked around the problem. For me, the prefs file was the answer.

Making an Independent Clip

I am working with still images and want to take an indivudual clip and convert it into a quicktime so that I can use the TimeReMap and have control over timing and ease in/ease out.
When I click on the clip my "Make Independent Clip" is greyed out. I have seen this done but am not getting it. I could make a new project with this one clip in it and make a QT.
Any suggestions?
~Mark

Okay, then you can do what I suggested in my previous post.
You can either take that clip and put it in a separate sequence to export it out and bring it back in (be sure to use "Current Settings" so you don't adjust the quality with compression), OR you can just set an IN at the beginning of the clip on your timeline (cmd + I) and an OUT an the end (cmd + O) and export it right from there (FCP wil only export whatever is between your In and Out point).
Make sure it's fully rendered before you export it.
Figure that'll work alright for you?

Organization approach re: capture, logging, independent clips

I'm learning FCE to edit my showreel from DVcam source tapes via a deck with device control. The media sources are existing montages, individual commercials and VFX shots/scenes. Ultimately, the edited montages or exerpts will become distinct chapters of a DVD, some clips or sequences showing up in different montages (ultimately DVD chapters).
Based on what I read in FCE Help and Lisa Brenneis' manual, I'm beginning to think I should use either "capture now" or "capture project" to import, then convert all to independent clips and subdivide/rename & log after the fact. (I'd back up on DVD-ROM.) Two reasons this seems to be the way to go...
1.) The capture session is at a facility and I need to minimize time spent there in capture. And 2.) The master/affiliate clip relationship seems to bring a level of complication I'm not sure I'm ready to handle yet.
I'd appreciate any advice, given the nature of the source media and eventual use, regarding the best capture method and any drawbacks to working with independent clips. Thank you.
ibook G4 Mac OS X (10.4.6) LaCie hard drive

Changing the name of a master clip after the capture is sort of a no no in FCP. There's other columns for information if you need to add it to the clip.
You can rename subclips all you want but not master clips, because FCP uses this captured QT media file name for reconnection (must match name of clip in browser if it's a master clip).
You can reimport all the master clips in a flash... would that help?
If you select a sequence, with the clips, it will still reconnect BTW.
Jerry

Connect Independent Clips (Play All)

Hello,
I am new to DVD Studio -- have a fairly simple question I think:
I am making a DVD that will contain a number of short vignettes/films. Each film is independent of the other but I would like a "Play All" option so a viewer can easily watch one after the other after the other.
I know I can accomplish this by compressing all the clips into one big movie, making chapters, and having the chapters selected return to the main menu, but I don't want to have to put all the clips into a single mpeg file (I would rather do subtitles and everything independtly on a clip by clip basis as I work on them).
So, is there an easy way to make all the independent clips play back to back ? Is that the "story" feature ? I played around with it but couldn't figure it out.
Thanks,
Damon

Stories would be the easiest approach and the easiest way to do the stories would be to place them all on one track with chapter markers between each clip
The Play All Story would include all Chapter Markers
If you want just to play a section you add just the marker to the section
For instance if there are 3 clips, with Markers 1,2,3 - PLay All Story would have markers 1,2,3 - Just section 1 would have just marker 1, etc.
http://dvdstepbystep.com/passelections.php
http://dvdstepbystep.com/stories_details.php
There are also other approaches, for instance you can make two stories for each seperate track, so track 1, 2 & 3 would each have a Play All Story and a Play Sol story (each would be identical with one marker, the difference being the end jumps for the stories would be either set to the next track you want to play (Play All) or return to the Menu (Play Solo)
And the last way would be scripting.
Button action would be to a script
mov GRPM (whichever you want) SPRM 8//this sets the GRPM to the button that was pressed. Buttons are in increments of 1024 so easier to divide by 1024 to keep track
div GPRM (whatever), 1024 //makes it 1-4
//assumes button 1 is play track 1, button 2 is play track 2, button 3 is play track 3, button 4 is play all
Jump Track 1 if GPRM = 1
Jump Track 2 if GRPM = 2
Jump Track 3 if GPRM = 3
Jump Track 1 if GPRM = 4 //both selections 1 and 4 will go to track 1 to start
Then the end jumps for each track (could be rolled into one script but you can make a few may be easier to follow)
So for track 1
JUMP Menu, if GPRM = 1 //(play all was not selected so return to menu)
Jump Track 2
So for track 2
JUMP Menu, if GPRM = 3 //(play all was not selected so return to menu)
Jump Track 3
Track 3 will always return to menu since it is last in either event, so just set end jump

Save independent clips from main capture

Hello there,
I have just captured all of my video with Final Cut Pro, but now I would like to go through the material and select the "best off". I would like to create independent clips, that I can use later on for my project, which will allow me to get reed of garbage. How can I save independent clips, from my main 2 hour captured file?
Thank you

I am able to export it by setting my cursor at the end and beggining of the clip, selecting the clip, to then export it as a Quick Time Movie, on a folder so I can use it later on.
Bad idea. Doing this you lose all vital clip information, including source timecode and reel name. If you lost your media drives (not uncommon) then re-building the cut would be VERY time consuming...if you could even do it. With reel number and timecode, simply recapturing the footage would rebuild the cut, if you kept the project file.
What you should do is subclip your captured file, make those subclips independent clips, then either use the MM to copy them as separate files, or manage them as separate clips so that you can recapture them properly.
Shane

Correct way to create a small independent clip from a larger clip

In a recent post:
Tara Easley replied to: How to export a short clip from within a larger scene?
With:
"After you make your in and out points, highlight the one minute segment and go to Modify. Then click "Make Independent Clip". It should save just the 1 minute clip in your bins section. You will need to change it's name, but that should work."
My question is whether this process will make an exact "stand alone file" with duplicate quality as the original clip or is there another method that must be used to maintain the original quality of the original clip and get a new independent file?
TIA,
Ken

MartinR wrote:File > Export > QuickTime Movie.
Okay, that is as I thought. FCE cannot help me 'chop' out a portion of the original file as it came from the camera (because it is in the wrong codec to work in FCE.)
Would Final Cut Pro be able to work with more file formats? Or does it also need to have cuts converted to AIC?
I think, because I am a beginner, that I am barking up the wrong tree about editing original footage since it really would also have to be converted to AIC before it would be useable in FCE. I"ll just be sure to save all of my original files from the camera and then 'crop out' what I need as separate files for archive by the method you named above.
Thank You,
Ken

Make Independent Clip is greyed out

With many of my clips, Make Independent Clip is greyed out, and I can't figure out why. Please help, and thank you!

select a clip in the timeline or the browser and hit command-9 and tell us what codec (also called compressor) , frame rate etc If you're material is not in a fcp friendly format, that may be the problem. I also know that you can only use this command in certain circumstances. Had to do it a week or so ago and it took a little fooling til the option was available.

Undo "Make Independent Clips" ?? HELP!

Well, I had thought I made some subclips, but instead of clips they were sequences. Not sure how that happened - I did command U, but anyway..
When I was trying to figure out why that happened, I went to "Modify -> Made Independent Clips" thinking maybe that was the culprit.
I realized that wasn't it, and made my subclips from the sub-sequences that were there. So now I have all these subclips (and I deleted all the sub-sequences).
However, I go to look at the subclips and they are all distorted. In the viewer it says that they are scaled up to 225, I don't know why that would happen.. And in the Canvas they are all pixely and the resolution is messed up. When I scale them down to 100, the video is the size of a thumbnail.
I have NO idea what happened, because I'm almost positive that the only thing I did was click "Make independent clips" and then create the subclips.
Can anyone help me fix this?? I wish final cut express had an undo history..

I know FCE has an "undo", every program in existence does. I was referring to an undo history, ie. photoshop, which will tell you what each undo actually undoes.
I also know what "make subclip" does. What I didn't realize was that if you try to make a subclip using cmd-u with in & out points in the timeline it does NOT create a subclip, but in fact creates a sub-sequence. To make the subclip you have to be making the in & out points in the viewer, not the canvas.
When I realized that was what I had done, I created subclips from those sub-sequences, and then deleted the sub-sequences. I had also selected "Make independent clips".
I don't know how or why the frame settings of my clips got changed and scaled, because I obviously would not have scaled them. Maybe it is some quirky setting that is going on, or maybe it has something to do with my making subclips from the sub-sequences that I then deleted. I have no idea.
Thanks for trying to help, but sounds like we're both lost on this. I have 4 sequences in this project so I don't want to risk making anything worse. In addition to the 4 sequences, I have 4 original source files that are each 1 hour long. From those, I made many subclips so I could easily find footage I was looking for. If I now go back and select "Remove Subclip Limits" will this effect every subclip in my project?? I don't know if I can risk that.
I will have to just go back to the original source clip and create new subclips from that, deleting the subclips that became skewed.
Thanks anyway.
Vanessa

How do I make a clip "independant" in FCP 7.0.3?

I have two imported DV clips.
- One is 45 minutes long
- One is about 15 minutes long
I want to break these two captured files up into "chunks" so I can edit them in the timeline without even referencing the original DV clips.
Reason: editing nightmare I am trying to resolve.
- I know how to use "mark dv start/stop" in each DV clip to segment my DV clips into my original "shots" on DV tape.
- I know how to make "subclips" from the 'segments".
What I don't know how to do is to make these new clips TOTALLY independant of the source footage because my edits are getting completely messed up. Someone suggested I make the new segment clips "independant" clips, but I can't seem to find that option anywhere.
Any suggestions?
thanks

Thank you ALL!
These are some of the best answer I have got so far, but let me run a few things by you and see what you think...
My original, orignal question was something like "How do I import and break up my video so I can edit my shots on the timeline?"
My real goal, as you might guess, is to make FCP do the grunt work so I can get my "shots" from the DV camera into the timeline so I can cut them, move them around, synch them to audio etc. That's why FCP is called a non-linear editor. Right?
I really don't want to have to export and then reimport a bunch of video clips because that's a lot of work for ME. I know that you can do this, and I know how to do it, but come on! I want to make FCP do that work, and theorietically it should be able to do this.
From digging around on the internet, and from asking multiple questions on this forum, here is the workflow I have peiced together. (I am not sure if it will work yet because I still have to test it...)
I think the complete answer is:
1) Capture video to a project (the whole tape)
2) Select the master clip (the whole tape) in the browser and choose "Mark/ DV Start/Stop" (just like you said)
3) Select the resulting video "segments" in the browser and choose "Make Clip" from the modify menu (this converts the original captured segments into subclips)
4) Select the resulting video subclips and drag them to the timeline for editing (I am not sure if I also need to "Remove Clip Limitations" from the subclips as well, but at least I know where to look if my 5 steps don't work)
5) Right click on the video subclips in the timeline and choose "make independant clip"
The bottom line is that I am trying to get FCP to do the grunt work of keeping track of my video ins/outs, segments, subclips and independant clips without me having to manage 100 files on my hard drive in the project folder! The whole point of NLE is to let the computer figure out how to arrange and render all of your stuff based on information that is stored in the FCP file.
Thoughts?

CREATING NEW/Duplicate Master clips

Hi Guys...me again. I've been reading the manual all weekend...and decided that, since I SCREWED with this compressor thing...that I'd try to prevent the problem from happening again. I need to know if I'm on the right track.
I'm working on a video of our show (animal show) and I am creating a dozen or so "mini clips" in the timeline, one for each animal segment, each contains a/b roll, effects, etc. I DO NOT have these clips linked togeter yet...I've left a gap in the timeline between each clip, in order to grab and move them around as I see fit.
I was thinking...(a dangerous past-time for me) that "Gee, Mark, wouldn't it be swell if I could make each of these little animal clips into independent clips, so if I screw up, or have to go back and tweak it later...I don't have to deal with this **** compressor and ripping apart my work? ".
SO...I read the manual, and it seems that I can do this. The option in the menu is to make an independent clip, but when I highlighted my video/auido files in the clip area, and clicked the independent clip button, nothing happened. Does this mean that it recorded it somewhere on my project drive? i could not seem to find it. Also, should I just Modify it by making a New/Duplicate Master CLip?
Does this sound like I'm on the right track?
I'm just trying to prevent my "other" (freakin' compressor) issues from having to happen again.
THANKS AGAIN!
MW

No. That is not what it means.
Make independant clip removes the link between the timeline clip and the clip in the browser that the timeline clip came from. In otherwords, it will keep you from matching back to that clip in the browser.
I don't know what issues you have with compressor, but if you want your segments to be self contained clips, export them as self contained quicktimes (using Export QuickTime Movie... leave it at Current Settings... and set Self Contained). Then you can bring them back in and arrange them in your timeline as you see fit, they will be entirely self contained...
Patrick

To clip or not to clip?

OK, I'm new to FCE and I just need a recommendation on technique. I know that I should be reading the book, but honestly I have two kids, one 4 years and the other 9 months, and by the time I find time to read the book they'll be in middle school. Since what I'm trying to do is edit together home video of them for my family and burn it onto DVD, I'd like to get it finished before that.
I'm using Standard Definition DV tape and have captured 3 reels that I now want to edit. The scenes on the DVD will be arranged chronologically, the same as they are on the tape, but broken into individual chapters, one per event on the tape. There will be transitions between the chapters, but nothing terribly fancy.
I have figured out how to use the razor blade on the timeline to cut apart sections of the captured video, I can make them independent clips and rename them. This is what I'm used to from iMovie which I used before, but I don't know if it's the best/right/professional way to work in FCE.
So, the question: Should I separate the captured video into sub-clips as described, or leave it intact and use in and out points and key frames to define the chapters and scenes?
Thanks in advance.
-John

Even better, if you are wanting to have FCE break the clips at the start/stop points of the tape you can do it this way:
http://fcpbook.com/Video5.html
• Then, once you have created subclips of the different clips on your camera, I'd recommend using in and out points in the viewer on the subclips created in DV Start/Stop Detect (see above link) to get a rough-cut that you can bring into your timeline.
• You can then place the clips in the timeline in the correct order.
• I would then use the ripple tool for even more precise editing (for example, you can use that tool to select the end point of the clip, then type -15 and enter, and it ripples the timeline back 15 frames, cutting off 15 from that clip)
The idea of this is to start out large by cutting into larger clips, then refine into smaller clips as you go.
If you are just wanting to create chapters that you would be able to access through the scene selections on your DVD, you add a normal marker to each part of the timeline you would like one by clicking "M," then click "M" again to open up the marker box. Then click the button to make it a chapter marker in that box.
If you then export as a regular Quicktime Movie, iDVD will create one long video file to play as well as a scene selection menu from which you can start from any of the markers you made.
Is this what you meant?

Freeze up during clip capture with random change of in and out points

Having BIG problems capturing DV footage which began late last Fall. While performing a capture (assigned clips) footage would go down for a few seconds then would freeze (picture only, the audio continued) then after several seconds the picture would "catch up" and continue.
Found a solution here in the FCP forum where I had my firewire drives "ignored" by SPOTLIGHT by listing them in the privacy selection. Worked and moved on.
I have a project now where the problem has come up again. Once again during a clip capture it did what it did before - but now it ignores the assigned in point (audio but no video and almost consistently delaying it by 9 seconds into the capture) then freezes (at the assigned outpoint - sometimes) then continues to play on (audio only) then resumes (again catching up) then stops announcing a SUCCESSFUL CAPTURE. When the clip is selected to preview it plays back from the incorrect in point, freezes, then plays until the catch up - with now the audio out of sync. More craziness because now the log information now has changed: the MEDIA START & END information is not what was inputed so the DURATION TIME is now different and sometimes it adds a MARK OUT point (!?). I rarely use the CAPTURE NOW function but even trying that the footage still freezes up and goes out of sync.
I worked the SPOTLIGHT routine again with no change. Have completely optimized my system drive and external hard drives using DISKWARRIOR 4.1
I accept all the auto software up dates that come through UPDATER and see that I received a updated Quicktime version 7.5 on 13 June 08. I also noticed that I don't have CLASSIC OS 9 supported and seemed to have read here about something about FIREWIRE DRIVERS that maybe missing?
Was thinking of upgrading to 10.5 to see if that helps - but unsure about my FCP version/compatability...
So, here I sit frustrated since I have used FCP (which I LOVE) for quite a few years with great success - this is crazy! OF course, I have a project which deadline is looming!
Any ideas?
Much appreciation..
Here's my computer stats:
G4 Powerbook
OS 10.4.11
FCP 5.0.4
QT 7.5
Sony DSR-11 recorder/player
4-Firewire Drives with 20gigs of space available

So far have done a workaround to digitize my DV elements through iMovie. Not pretty. I string together the selected/import clips (in this case from interviews), assemble them in sequential order on the time line with small breaks of black in between, then export the timeline as DVCPRO/DV-NTSC quicktime file. Take that file into my FCP then segment out the clips on the time line, make each segment an independent clip so that I can name them. Not pretty but it works - miss having the logging data going through FCP log and capture.
Still waiting for any other solution to my situation - thanks!
John

Editing clip changes entire footage

Moved captured video from browser window into viewer window, set my "In" and "Out" points, moved the selected clip to the timeline and tried to edit that one clip w- brightness & contrast (even made it an "independent clip", renamed it, and even copied it back into the browser window ----- trying different solutions); however, whatever method I try in order to edit just that one clip, the edit effects the entire footage the clip came from originally. What is the proper method to edit a single clip for or in the timeline without effecting the "mother-clip" (which needs no editing)? Thank you. ----- TMP-MAC

I tried applying the effect to the clip in the timeline (as the Apple tutorial said to do) then double-clicking the clip to make adjustments in the effects-tab window of the viewer. I also tried just double-clicking a clip into the viewer then adding effects by way of the toolbar at the top of the screen (and selecting my chosen video effect). I saw my changes, but everytime I place a clip (with any method, such as double-clicking it) back into the viewer window for editing, it shows the entire original clip again with the "In" & "Out" points around my selected clip, and the effects / changes get applied to all of the footage in the viewer window both inside and outside of the "In" & "Out" points. Also, even though the selected clip did get adjusted by the applied effects, when I made a freeze-frame image from the effected clip, it had to re-apply the same effects to the image (it had the original appearance to it, as it no effects applied). Why would FCE not make a freeze-frame image and include the effects of that clip (if I may add a relative question here)?

Splitting and renaming clips in FCE4

How can I split a clip up into smaller clips and rename then? Whenever I try to copy or duplicate them I get the same copy for all. I was trying to change the name as well and it seems I can't make them independent of each other. Does anyone know how to do this?

Read through pp. 68-69 of the manual (aka the help file) "Copying and deleting items in the Browser". And pp. 943-950, "Working with Master and Affiliate Clips."
You can cut up a single clip into as many parts as you want. You can do this in the Viewer by setting IN and OUT points or on the Timeline by using the Razor tool. To rename the subclips created this way you have to make each of them an Independent Clip. ( *Make Independent Clip* or *Modify > Make Sequence Clips Independent*.) But read up on it before you do this, as you may create even more headaches for yourself if you're not careful when you do this.

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