Independent requiement is not comsumed in strategy group 10
HI Gurus,
My material is maintained as :
Strategy group : 10 Make-to-stock production
Consumption mode 2 backward anf forward
Indenpendent requirement is created as LSF.
in MD04, it shows like below:
stock 5
IndReq LSF 20- 15-
CusOrd xxx 1- 16-
Reqtype of Cusord is KSL.
after i finish PGI, it shows like below:
stock 4
IndReq LSF 20- 16-
So i have two questions:
1:why the indReq is not consumed.
2:how to control when to cosume inreq , when sales order is created or when PGI is done?
BR,
Dragsky
Hi
In strategy 10 PIR is consumed when delivery is done against sales order.
This is controlled at the time of definition of MRP strategy IMG->PP->Demand Mgmt->PIR->Planning strategy. by assigning requirement class to the strategy.
For st 10 requirement class is 100. for consumption following options are available
No consumption with customer requirements
Consume planning with assembly
Consume planning w/o assembly
Consume planning material (w/o assembly)
for 100 option 0 is maintained which is standard sap setting not recommended to change. If you need a different behaviour you can create a new rer class and strategy as per your need.
Regards
Abhishek
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It is possible to create withdrawal by other process that it is not sales order using strategy group 10?
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09/07/2010 -
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Thanks for answer soon :).
You rigth, withdrawal it is done by GI from delivery I wanted to say that, then this GI delivery is from a sales order, rigth?
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I have this issue only with a couple material, all them are working properly.
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*please do not give any links or do copy pastes.please share the answer if u ve used it real time scenarios.
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anilHi Anil,
I know little bit about strategy group that thing only Iam explaining you.
The strategy group determines the planning strategy of a material production.
Example :- 1.If you put strategy group as 20 in the strategy group field the system will trigger the Make to order planing strategy to produce the material.
In the Make to order strategy system will make plan to produce a material after getting the requirement in the form of the sales order, here sales order will trigger the production order.
Make to order strategy will be used when the materials are customer specific.
2.If you put strategy group as 10 in the strategy group field system will trigger the make to stock planning strategy to produce that material based on the other configuration in IMG.
Make to stock means producing the material without respect to Demond, it will be based on the past sales.
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Could anybody please help me out of this problem?
Strategy group 20 is for purely MTO scenario. I know the execution part including most of the possibilities in PP module but I'm not that much aware regarding Costing part for it. Could anybody please focus somewhat on costing part required for it like
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2. What will be the impact if we go for Sales Order Costing?
Since we are using here REM environment.
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Since your scenario is MTO, so sale order costing is the most suitable one. It is better to run the sale order costing for each & every sale order. It is similar like the standard cost estimation and EK02 condition type will bring the value in sale order pricing. This condition type you need to define in the requirement class.
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Right now the top item is working fine and automatically creating a production order, but the component is not automatically creating a production order?
Ideas?
Is this possible?
other solutions?
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DevonDevon,
I have never tried that. I would be very surprised if creation of a production order could be made to create another production order of a component, based solely upon a strategy group.
I have never tried it, but you might look at using special procurement type 52 for your components (collective order). Worth a try. Collective orders, though, bring their own set of restrictions.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/b1/c0500c439a11d189410000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
There might be some workaround possibilities, depending on your business requirements. Maybe let MRP create the planned orders at the lower level, and then immediately create a production order via standard program immediately following the MRP run.
Your requirement could possibly be met in APO using Multilevel Availability Check (MATP).
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_scm70/helpdata/EN/05/7e1f3bc779144ae10000000a114084/frameset.htm
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