InDesign CMYK color Picker is covered by Pantone

I am trying to add a new cmyk color to my color palette in InDesign but it is partially covered by the Pantone value box. I can see the line for Cyan but everything else is covered. This is a sporadic problem, sometimes it works fine and sometimes is does not. Has anyone else run into this problem?

Hi Tracy,
This might be a better question for the InDesign Discussion Forum. That said, I have InDesign version 8.1 on Windows. I'm not having any trouble with InDesign's color selection tools.
Could this have something to do with your display/resolution settings?
Nancy O.

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http://tinypic.com/r/zsuvtg/8
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Also if you turn any color mix into a cmyk swatch you will not get that color in the color picker as well.
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It should be reported here: (if I report it nothing will happen so it is up to you guys to do the reporting or it will remain as such.
Adobe - Feature Request/Bug Report Form

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