InDesign crop marks HELP??

Hey guys!
So I'm designing a booklet and I need to put crop marks on it. The problem is, when I set the marks they appear not only at the right places but also BETWEEN the facing pages. How can I set them to appear only on the sides and not where the binding of the booklet would be later?
Thanks!

Are you making manual crop marks, or maybe using the crop marks script? If so, do you really need them to be manual? You can generate crop marks in the PDF export phase. That's how most people would do it.

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CROP MARK color problem

Hi all
I've got a problem in crop marks; while distilling the ps file it generates log file as crop mark is in cmyk. I've used indesign crop mark option while generate PS file. Pls help on this issue.
thanks in advance

Crop marks should use CMYK and any other colour like spot colours when making a full colour document for print.
Printing is CMYK so the colour of each crop mark has to be in CMYK to be seen on every printing plate. This helps the printers print each colour on top of each other, called registration.
Usually the crop marks created using the REGISTRATION colour in Indesign, which will use all the colours you have used in your document, including Cyan Magenta Yellow and Black and any other colour you have used in the document.
Have you got colour images anywhere in the document?

CROP MARKS? HELP!

Hi there, folks
I just got InDesign as my label have put an extremely inexperienced intern on the formatting of my cd art which I send in Photoshop format. He keeps screwing it up and it makes me very uncomfortable. So I have agreed to take the responsibility on myself, and am presently trying to prepare a cover for print.
But I can't for the life of me figure out how to set the crop marks. In Illustrator you'd make an object and then there was a button to set that as crop marks. How can I do it in InDesign? Also the registration marks? There is only one page about it in the help files and it doesn't mention how to actually set these things up.
Also, if anyone can offer further advice so that this goes to print with all the requirements. Is there anything else I need to set up?
Much thanks in advance!

Just designed and printed a CD cover yesterday for a client.
 
 A CD cover isn't exactly square.
 
 Make a new document: 4.875" wide x 4.75" high for your CD cover. Margins should be a minimum of 1/8" (.125). This is the live area and most printers prefer a minimum of 1/8" especially for text so it's not so close to the edge that part of it doesn't get trimmed off by mistake. Make a bleed of .125"
 
 Here's a sample image for you. I use .25 margin because I want the text and image as a unit in the center of my cover.
 
 
<a href="http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1hF95d2SYLbzdSPNV8eRPvAL49QG" /></a>
<img alt="Picture hosted by Pixentral" src="http://www.pixentral.com/hosted/1hF95d2SYLbzdSPNV8eRPvAL49QG_thumb.jpg" border="0" />
 
 And here is what the job looks like when printed and trimmed:
 
 
<a href="http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=18G4CebZ8CYluRSgEazoeHTOL2n5Q0" /></a>
<img alt="Picture hosted by Pixentral" src="http://www.pixentral.com/hosted/18G4CebZ8CYluRSgEazoeHTOL2n5Q0_thumb.jpg" border="0" />

Scripting newbie...help for a "simple" crop mark script

Hello,
I am after some advice or assistance on the scripting side of things for indesign please.
Basically where do you start? I'm wanting to do some scripts to speed up some repetitive processes.
What I'm trying to do initially is (what I'd think would be) a very simple script. Basically it's adding crop marks to document, with the horizontal ones running the full width of the document. I've just no idea where to start...
So, I think the process of the script would be this:
1. Find document size
2. Add a horizontal line at 0.1 pt size,
Length = document width + 20mm
X axis = document width divided by 2 (line sits centrally, hanging 10mm over left and right edges)
Y Axis = 0mm
3. Add a horizontal line at 0.1 pt size,
Length = document width + 20mm
X axis = document width divided by 2 (line sits centrally, hanging 10mm over left and right edges)
Y Axis = document height
4. Add a vertical line at 0.1 pt size,
Length = 10mm
X axis = 0mm
Y Axis = -2mm to -12mm (bottom line sits at -2, top of line at -12)
5. Add a vertical line at 0.1 pt size,
Length = 10mm
X axis = document width
Y Axis = -2mm to -12mm (bottom line sits at -2, top of line at -12)
6. Add a vertical line at 0.1 pt size,
Length = 10mm
X axis = 0mm
Y Axis = document height + 2mm, to document height +12mm (top of line sits at document height +2mm, bottom of line at document height +12mm)
7. Add a vertical line at 0.1 pt size,
Length = 10mm
X axis = document width
Y Axis = document height + 2mm to document height +12mm (top of line sits at document height +2mm, bottom of line at document height +12mm)
For the future I am wanting some more complex scripts but this will hopefully help me understand a little bit. (I will need one with input tables where you can add variables if that's do-able, but i somehow think it wont be me doing that one!!)
Thanks in advance for any help or pointers.
Phil

As said above, we can walk you through a custom script step by step
Let me get you started with this: the ESTK Help -- or one of its variants -- is your biggest friend!
"1. Find document size"
Use app.activeDocument.documentPreferences.pageWidth and app.activeDocument.documentPreferences.pageWidth for these.
"2. Add a horizontal line at 0.1 pt size,
Length = document width + 20mm
X axis = document width divided by 2 (line sits centrally, hanging 10mm over left and right edges)
Y Axis = 0mm"
app.activeDocument.graphicLines.add () adds a new graphic line on a default position. You can then move it into position.
Doing the math results in this little script to add the first line:
newLine = app.activeDocument.graphicLines.add();
newLine.paths[0].pathPoints[0].anchor = [ -20, 0 ];
newLine.paths[0].pathPoints[1].anchor = [ app.activeDocument.documentPreferences.pageWidth+20, 0 ];
newLine.strokeWeight = 0.1;
newLine.strokeColor = app.activeDocument.swatches.item("Registration");
newLine.strokeStyle = app.strokeStyles[0];
A 'line' can consist of a number of paths (consider a compound path), but usually has only one single path. A new line only has two endpoints -- the anchors --, and you can move these around by setting the coordinates with an array of [ x y ] values. Important: These values are in your current measurement units! I'm assuming, for convenience, that you have mm for this. If you see 20 inch wide lines popping up, you know why :-) Another important point: the rulers' zero point must be in the top left of your document. All "absolute" values are relative to this zero point.
It is perfectly possible to have the script set the correct measurements and move the zero point for you, but now you know why it has to do that.
Notice you don't explicitly move the center of the new line; in this case, it's easier to immediately move each end point into its correct place.
There are a few other things you can do to make the script misbehave. The new line is created with the active defaults in your document. You could have the script change the defaults to the correct settings, but that's not really user friendly. Instead, you can change everything by applying new values to the new line only. You can see I set its weight, color, and stroke style.
A few points on these latter three settings:
Didn't I just tell you all values are in current measurement units? Well, line widths are always in points (as is font size and line spacing).
The correct line color is grabbed by asking for a swatch called "Registration" -- you might want to replace this with another swatch name.
The stroke style is grabbed by blindly using the very first stroke style in InDesign. I found out the hard way using "Solid" (or what is it called) does not work across different languages. Much later I learned there is a language-independent way of using the names, but hey, that's harder to remember.

Test: Using Crop marks in indesign CS4 with Epson 3800 Mac 10.5.7

Jun 19, 2009 9:35 PM
Crop marks using indesign CS4 with Epson 3800 Mac 10.5.7
My crop marks and pages are printing larger than my document sizes. My paper size is 13x19, so I should have crop marks at the exact corners of the page sizes. But indesign is printing the entire document larger. So my document which is 11x14.75 is now printing 11.25x15.5. All my settings are correct. So, is anyone else using an Epson 3800 with CS4 indesign having issues such as the above? And can I ask (beg) a few of you to do a test print with crop marks and let me know the results?
My workflow has been completely stalled because I can't get my pages to print the right sizes with the crop marks at the right measurements. I'm printing a photo portfolio on the Lumijet double sided paper and "when" it did work awhile back sometime several months ago, the finals looked great. I've already reinstalled both the Epson 3800 driver and the Indesign CS4 software, but the results are still the same.
So, here are my settings:
document size: 11x14.75
in the print panel:
Printer: Epson 3800
Setup: Paper size: Super A3/B13x19, scale 100% width & height, page position Centered
Marks & Bleed: Marks: "Crop Marks" checked. offset: 0, weight: .25, Bleed and Slug: Use Document bleed settings, include slug area. The bleed is 0 for top, bottom, left and right
Color Management: Document profile: Adobe RGB, Options: Indesign handles colors, Printer Profile: (A custom made profile using Xrite for the 3800 with Lumijet paper)
The settings on the Epson 3800
Epson 3800 Printer
Presets (set for the profile mentioned above)
No Color management
Sometimes, on a whim, the printer and indesign cooperate together like good little children should. But not often. And I can not conclude why they are nice to each other sometimes, but given the same detailed data at other times, they fight.
If anyone could run through a similar process using indesign with a photo layout and setting up the printer settings for both the Epson 3800 and in the indesign program and let me know their results, I would value your conclusions very much. You don't even have to waste paper or ink. Finally, after wasting so many pages of paper and of ink. I deleted the photos from the page, and printed it blank with only the crop marks for me to measure if it was coming out right or not.
Thank you for any response. And feel free to call me if you want to vent about Epson 3800's or about Indesign CS4 anytime! I'm up late.... 646 256 8853.
Thaddeus

I specified the paper size as strictly 13x19, no boarderless, no retain size. Same problem. I also did as you suggested below. The pdf document does remain true to the document. As a pdf doc. I changed the color mgmt to Adobe rgb 1998. It looks okay, but not as lively as I get when printing correctly with my color mgmt working and in sync.
Your final question about simply using photoshop. Well... I might go back to it and give up on Indesign if this is the case that it won't simply crop my documents to the sizes that I input them to be cropped as. But, I am using Indesign so that I can create a page layout that I can't do in Photoshop. My folio is about 25 or more pages with double page spreads. I am printing on a two-sided Lumijet paper and my folio was custom designed to be cut out at 11x14.75. If and when it is printed correctly, I am printing on both sides of the paper and trimming it to exact size.
It sounds as if you have exhausted the potential problems and don't have a clear explanation for why the doc isn't printing correctly in Indesign either with the color mgmt. or the document sizes. I'll try one more print using a different color profile similar enough to get at minimum, an okay print. If it doesn't print at least okay, then it isn't most likely my profile..... Okay done. Crazy. The color is inaccurate, but for some reason or another, the document size printed correctly. It measured exactly 11x14.75. What I have done during this period of time is:
First) I did as you suggested and turned the Print to Adobe PDF 9 and created a print there. I measured it and it did measure correctly. I didn't love the color, but... at least it is measuring correctly.
Second) I turned the Printer back to Epson 3800 (I'm beginning to think that this simple gesture was what caused the printer to print correctly) I didn't change any settings, but I did make sure that they were set correctly as before. The paper size was set to 13x19. When I make sure this setting is right in the "printer" dialogue for the Epson 3800, and then switch back to ID, the printer dialogue in Id changes to "Define by Printer." But I changed nothing, other than the profile to an older one that I used before. The color is still inaccurate, but at least for two prints just now back to back, the measurements were correct. What to do? Lol.
Thanks again for all of your time spent trying to resolve this issue.
Sincerely,
Thaddeus

Crop mark issue when placing and PDF in Indesign

I've just had this strange issue that I can't figure out and I'm not sure if anyone else has had it as well.
I exported a PDF through InDesign with crop marks. I then placed the PDF in Indesign and for some reason the bleed and the crop marks don't
show up! I've never had this issue with Indesign before.
Is it even InDesign, or is it the PDF itself?

Select show options when placing and select the appropriate crop to choice.
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My crop marks and pages are printing larger than my document sizes. My paper size is 13x19, so I should have crop marks at the exact corners of the page sizes. But indesign is printing the entire document larger. So my document which is 11x14.75 is now printing 11.25x15.5. All my settings are correct. So, is anyone else using an Epson 3800 with CS4 indesign having issues such as the above? And can I ask (beg) a few of you to do a test print with crop marks and let me know the results?
My workflow has been completely stalled because I can't get my pages to print the right sizes with the crop marks at the right measurements. I'm printing a photo portfolio on the Lumijet double sided paper and "when" it did work awhile back sometime several months ago, the finals looked great. I've already reinstalled both the Epson 3800 driver and the Indesign CS4 software, but the results are still the same.
So, here are my settings:
document size: 11x14.75
in the print panel:
Printer: Epson 3800
Setup: Paper size: Super A3/B13x19, scale 100% width & height, page position Centered
Marks & Bleed: Marks: "Crop Marks" checked. offset: 0, weight: .25, Bleed and Slug: Use Document bleed settings, include slug area. The bleed is 0 for top, bottom, left and right
Color Management: Document profile: Adobe RGB, Options: Indesign handles colors, Printer Profile: (A custom made profile using Xrite for the 3800 with Lumijet paper)
The settings on the Epson 3800
Epson 3800 Printer
Presets (set for the profile mentioned above)
No Color management
Sometimes, on a whim, the printer and indesign cooperate together like good little children should. But not often. And I can not conclude why they are nice to each other sometimes, but given the same detailed data at other times, they fight.
If anyone could run through a similar process using indesign with a photo layout and setting up the printer settings for both the Epson 3800 and in the indesign program and let me know their results, I would value your conclusions very much. You don't even have to waste paper or ink. Finally, after wasting so many pages of paper and of ink. I deleted the photos from the page, and printed it blank with only the crop marks for me to measure if it was coming out right or not.
Thank you for any response. And feel free to call me if you want to vent about Epson 3800's or about Indesign CS4 anytime! I'm up late.... 646 256 8853.
Thaddeus

You need the InDesign forum.

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The second issue was that the pdf didn't display the correct master page on one page of the book. The InDesign file has sections with slight grey backgrounds to separate particular sections of the book. One of the pages in one of those grey sections just appears as white (the text remained unharmed) in the pdf though the InDesign file is as it should be.
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I've created a Photoshop PDF and all the text is editbale after passing through indesign to add crop marks and bleeds - one line now isn't editable, what's causing this

I've created a Photoshop PDF and all the text is editable in the resulting PDF.
The PDF created by Photoshop is completely editable, all text! I put it through indesign so I could add crop marks and reduce the pdf file size and now all the text is editable except one line!
I've not used any faux styles or effects...what could be causing this?
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I've created a Photoshop PDF and all the text is editable in the resulting PDF.
The PDF created by Photoshop is completely editable, all text! I put it through indesign so I could add crop marks and reduce the pdf file size and now all the text is editable except one line!
I've not used any faux styles or effects...what could be causing this?
Thanks!

Bleed and crop marks for a magazine. need help

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jeffozan wrote:
*i'm using PS because i have no experience with ID.
You plan to use Photoshop to lay out an entire magazine? I'll say a prayer for you.

Help on saving back from CS4 to CS3 with the crop mark issue.

I am not asking how to create crop marks I needing to know how to save back from CS4 to has already has been created in 3. See issue below.
I am the only one with CS4 in this office. I have to save back to CS3 for everyone else to read. When looking in the artboard, I can see the un-editable crop marks that were made in CS3, but when I work on the file and save it down, they can no longer call up the crop marks. Any clue as to were they might access what should be there?

These work great, thank you so much!
So long as I only work on new stuff, I guess it doesn't matter if I switch to CS3. :-) I'll turn down requests for major edits to long documents already done in CS4!
We have 2 feet of snow on the ground here and are expecting 10-20 more inches of snow starting around noon! DC is basically shut down. I live right in the middle of the District, and the roads are a mess here. I can't imagine how bad the suburbs are.
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Hi there
I have a small invitaiton business and have recently started using Indesign (steep learning curve). I have designed a wedding suite for a bride and it is ready to go off to the printers. My problem is i have recently changed printers and these guys print on size SRA3 and charge for set up costs if I dont supply all my setup in this size.
I dont know how to do this! Is there a simple way i can take my one invitation and place it multiple times on a SRA3 setup without copying and pasting. Plus all my crop marks and bleeds need to line up.
ANy help would be really appreciated.
thanks
Nerissa

I really did not want to say more about this but your attitude is ....
Who are you that you think you know every printers setup and requirements, who are you to say that a person must not go to there prefered printer for work.
What the hell does a car got to do with printing, NOTHING. Keep on topic!
You say modern workflow, so your saying every print shop in every town in every country has exactly the same equipment as your printer has and whats needed to handle your unprofessional approach to laying out graphics, wake up will ya every print house in every town can be different your arrogance in assuming every print house can reproduce your improperly prepared graphics is just going to cause trouble.
Refering back to the original post. I did not see the name of the printer they where sending the job to, do you know them personally to insist that your way is the best way to reproduce the job. NO!
You do not know them yet you jumped on my suggestion and it was only a suggestion that could lead to an idea for getting the job done. You called it BS yet every working day at my work I follow that sort of work flow for a number of reason. No it is not modern Yes it does work everyday.
You thinking that your way is the only way is no help to anyone in here.
This forum is for everyone, if I take the time to suggest something so be it, it is not your job to judge if my suggestion is wrong.
Be a help not a hinderance and keep your arrogance outta the forum.
P Taz:
Bob's main problem is this modern workflow chip on his shoulder, not everyone has the latest and greatest hardware and software. Adobe is printing longer then I care to think back on, and they have many different ways of doing this job and many of these are still in use. Modern is all fine and dandy if you have it.
I am not happy with using obsolete processes but that is what I have to work with. I absorb a lot that is said in these forums not all I can use yet but its good to see the changes in technology. Everyone as a designer has to keep in mind the Printshop that is printing there work
I never came in here with the intention to revert people, I only suggested a way to get a job done even you do not know what equipment the printer has to reproduce the OP problem. How in gods name can a suggestion be wrong for this forum even you have fallen for bob's inability to realise there are still people out in the real world not using the most modern workflow equipment and these people need help.
It is no good you just saying update update update. The job needs doing with what they have, later when money permits or whatever then talk to them about modern workflows.
And lastly goes out my appology to the original poster, I am very sorry this has gone as far as it has.
Bob... Lighten up!

Booklet .pdf with crop marks, booklet doesn't fit the current paper size warning

Hello. I am on XP using CS4 InDesign.
I have the document set up as 4 pages, each 8.5 x 11, however, when creating a booklet .pdf, I mean it to be 2 pages 11x17.
When I add in the crop marks they do not appear on the .pdf when it is created. I receive a warning in the booklet diaglog that the booklet doesn't fit the current paper size and it says to specify a larger paper size.
What can I do to have the crop marks on my file? I understand the .pdf will be a little larger than 11x17 in order to fit the crop marks.
Thanks for any help in advance.

Hi Peter,
Thank you. I did try that first, but now I figured out what I did wrong. When the .pdf was made and opened, I cropoped the page according to the marks, but the page remained 12 x 18 instead of 11x17. I made sure that the "automatically adjust to fit marks and bleeds" and "use document bleed settings" was checked in the booklet dialog and print InDesign dialog.
When I cropped the page again to make sure I sized it correctly, it was 11x17.
Thank you!!!

EPS file placed within INDD art shows crop marks when exported to PDF

Hi Friends -
I have a INDD art file I'm working on, within which I placed an EPS image. Upon exporting the INDD art to PDF, the document has what appear to be crop marks surrounding the EPS image. This is not where the image should be cut, and these marks are being shown in a functional part of the design. Here is a screenshot of one corner of the EPS; the other 3 corners have identical marks:
Additional information:
- MS Windows 7 Enterprise SP1
- InDesign CS5.5 Version 7.5.3
- Marks are generated during export process/conversion to PDF; they are not visible in InDesign.
- EPS file does not create these crop marks when placed into another INDD file and exported using the same process as above.
- No other elements of the INDD file have similar marks displayed after export.
Any help with where I might find the setting in INDD to turn this OFF would be greatly appreciated!
D

That was probably the most expeditious reply I've ever received in a forum.
Anyhow, the crop marks are not part of the actual EPS image. Opening the EPS file in PS or AI reveals no stray crop marks so, unless the marks are somehow part of the EPS settings rather than a visible element of the image, I think it has something to do with INDD and its settings. To confirm, I did place this EPS in another INDD document and an export procedure utilizing the same steps does not reproduce the crop marks.

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