InDesign CS3 to CS5.5

My workplace is looking to upgrade from CS3 to CS5.5. As far as opening documents that have been constructed in CS3 in CS5.5, I've heard that they have to be exported into CS4 first where some conversion would take place, and then it is exported into CS5.5 - and it's also a case of using plug-ins as well. Is this true and has anyone experience any such problems?
Any help would be appreciated.
PT

You have that backwards. CS3 files should open fine in CS5.5. It’s going the other way that can be a problem.
BTW, if you buy CS5.5 now you’ll get a free upgrade to CS6 when it ships.
Bob

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I'm on OS 10.6.8, maybe one day 10.7 but not for the immediate future...my main computer these days is a three year old macbook pro with 4gb of ram if that matters...
the main reason to upgrade, adobe's new upgrade policy...would do this before the end of the year to save the 20 percent...if it weren't for this I wouldn't upgrade, CS3 has been fine for me so far...
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