InDesign CS4 ignores quotation mark settings in document

Hello,
I have the following problem: Despite setting 'dynamic' quotation marks in the Dictionary setting, InDesign just gives me apostrophes instead of left and right quotation marks. This is document dependent, in the next document of the book, it works perfectly.
This drives me nuts. I can't find any buttons or menu entries to change/reset this.
Any suggestions!
Thank you very much.
Till

"'Dynamic' quotation marks" in the dictionary? I would have to look that one up. The only place I know that changes the curly quote settings is in Preferences.
This is a document setting, but it does not change any existing curly or straight quotes! It only influences freshly entered ones. There is a default hot key that toggles this setting immediately, but I keep on forgetting what it was (check the Keyboard Shortcuts list for that). I do know it's somewhere near show/hide grids
Oddly enough, ID acts too smart when trying to replace straight quotes ^' with curly ones ' [*] (with the Curly setting on). Somehow it's convinced it doesn't need to change those. A trick is to first replace straight quotes with something unqiue: [!quote!] and then change this to plain '.
[*] A single or double straight quote character in Replace will be replaced with the correct opening/closing curly one. Or, rather, 'less thou art typesetting something Shakespearian.

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