Indesign CS5 Color Management Policies
Hello All,
I have just been having a look at Indesign CS5 Color Management Policies...
Can anyone clarify the following for me?
From my testing it looks like
1.) When placing an image into an indesign page the embedded icc profile is ignored and the "document profile" is used unless it is manually selected by the user in either (show import options) or (object > Image color Settings). This is despite the fact that the color settings are set to preserve embedded profiles.
2.) When placing an image into an indesign page greyscale profiles are also ignored and and all mono images are simply lumped into a "greyscale" colour space with no way to assign a particular profile or keep an embedded profile etc. This is despite the fact that the color settings are set to preserve embedded profiles.
3.) When placing an image into an indesign page there is also no way to manage the color of illustrator files. Embedded profiles are ignored in ai files. This is despite the fact that the color settings are set to preserve embedded profiles.
looks like a bug to me...
I am currently running indesign 7.0 on Mac OS 10.6.7
can you point me to any information on what is managed by the documents policy and what is managed by the application's policy?
Also, any idea what the reasoning behind having a document policy is? why not just let the application policy determine how to interpret everything?
Color Settings is a preference—there's no setting that would work for any condition (that includes Emulate Adobe Indesign 2.0 CMS Off).
The Color Management Policies setting is your global preference for how newly created documents will handle document and link profiles. Having the policy preference set at creation prevents unexpected profile changes as a document is passed from one user to another. The Ask When Opening check boxes give you the option to change existing document policies, which I described in post 7.
The policies let you control if existing CMYK color is allowed to be converted to a different CMYK space or not.
If the CMYK policy is set to Off then the newly created doc is not assigned a CMYK profile and all link profiles are ignored. In this case the document colors and the links are all color managed by the current Color Settings CMYK Working Space. The preview of all CMYK color in the document will change depending on current working space, but the output numbers will not.
Preserve Numbers (Ignore Linked Profiles) assigns the current CMYK Working Space to the new document and any placed links have their profiles ignored—the document profile is used instead. In this case the preview of all CMYK color (including links) comes from the assigned document profile, which travels with the document. After creation changing the Color Settings CMYK Working Space has no effect on the doc, its assigned profile is always used.
Preserve Embedded Profiles assigns the current CMYK working space to the new document and any placed links have their profiles honored. In this case the assigned doc profile drives the preview of the document color and links with out profiles, while links with embedded profiles are previewed via their profile. If the link's profile conflicts with the document profile, it will be converted to new CMYK numbers on export or print.
If the policy is Convert to Working Space the document colors are converted to the current CMYK Working Space and that profile is assigned to the document every time the document is opened when the working space conflicts with the assignment. Links are not converted but their profiles are honored.
Also would changing my color settings to "Emulate Adobe Indesign 2.0 CMS off" be considered to be a change of "application policy" or would this also effect my "document policy"?
There's never a good reason to use this setting. It would be the same as a CMYK and RGB Off policy except the Working Space profiles are some unknown—you don't have the option of choosing them.
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Process: Adobe InDesign CS5 [2686]
Path: /Applications/Adobe InDesign CS5/Adobe InDesign CS5.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe InDesign CS5
Identifier: com.adobe.InDesign
Version: 7.0.4.553 (7040)
Code Type: X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [191]
Responsible: Adobe InDesign CS5 [2686]
User ID: 501
Date/Time: 2014-04-08 08:36:31.138 +0100
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.9.2 (13C64)
Report Version: 11
Anonymous UUID: BEA65817-1B32-83C0-5494-E72D47AA481E
Sleep/Wake UUID: 6C86D3E4-D918-4DD8-8A2D-39D2AE368ADF
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x000000000000002c
VM Regions Near 0x2c:
--> __PAGEZERO 0000000000000000-0000000000001000 [ 4K] ---/--- SM=NUL /Applications/Adobe InDesign CS5/Adobe InDesign CS5.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe InDesign CS5
__TEXT 0000000000001000-0000000000005000 [ 16K] r-x/rwx SM=COW /Applications/Adobe InDesign CS5/Adobe InDesign CS5.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe InDesign CS5
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6 AdobeACE 0x0005a6f1 0x20000 + 239345
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Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0x00000000 ebx: 0x00000006 ecx: 0x000000f8 edx: 0x00038d00
edi: 0x15a82010 esi: 0x8fe6382a ebp: 0xbfffe3d8 esp: 0xbfffe3d8
ss: 0x00000023 efl: 0x00210246 eip: 0x8fe66105 cs: 0x0000001b
ds: 0x00000023 es: 0x00000023 fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x0000000f
cr2: 0x0000002c
Logical CPU: 1
Error Code: 0x00000004
Trap Number: 14
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0xdfc1000 - 0xdfedff4 +com.adobe.InDesign.Transform Panel (7.0.0.355 - 0) <FE711509-818D-ED28-E592-F31E8DD53838> /Applications/Adobe InDesign CS5/*/Transform Panel
0xe002000 - 0xe019ff3 +com.adobe.InDesign.Image Import UI (7.0.0.355 - 0) <EC696635-FAC6-CA59-AA74-388639C0BC6A> /Applications/AdobeThanks for the swift reply Peter.
I was just about to start uninstalling InDesign when your reply came.
Solution 1: Clear the SING Datastore folder - didn't work
Solution 2: Remove the SING component - this worked!
I'll spend the afternoon doublechecking everything works.
Thanks Andrew -
I'm scanning some old 35mm slides on an old iBook G3. I must use this because my scanner is no longer supported by the newer versions of OS10. The setup works just fine; just the other day I rescanned something I originally did almost 8 years ago and you can't tell the difference visually between the two versions. However, I'm making a book using these scanned illustrations in a newer iMac using OS10.6. I'm laying the book out using InDesign and Photoshop CS3. The problem is that when I view the scanned images in Photoshop--which look great on the old iBook--on the new iMac, all sport a noticeable yellowish cast with also a tad of red. I've been tearing my hair out trying to troubleshoot where the problem is. Not only do the images look much warmer on the iMac, but the prints from this computer do also. Under "color spaces" I have set both computer working spaces to Adobe RGB(1998) and under "color management policies," both computers are set at "preserve embedded profiles." I have come to a dead halt and would appreciate some advice as to steps I might take to resolve this frustrating issue. By the way, both monitors have been calibrated numerous times; as I say, the prints come out just as different as do the images on the monitors. Thanks for any help.
10.6 was the first version to properly display untagged sRGB. The print thing, I don't know, that's a WTF.
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CS4 - Color Management - Multiple Users
All,
Here is what I hope to be a question that some of you have encountered and solved already. I've tried dealing with Adobe on this, and even went as far as to purchase a pricey Gold Support Program, but that has turned out to be a waste of money so far (response times are horrible, and the "engineers" cannot seem to provide anything more than basic application usage support).
I am running CS4 on Windows 7 and I am looking to set up a custom CSF file for standardizing our color management policies across all of our CS4 apps. The workstations will be used by multiple users, so we configure the default account as we would like, and have new accounts replicate off of that.
The problem we are having is that the CS4 apps, and especially Acrobat, what CSF files in:
C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Color\Settings
When I place the CSF file there when I am customizing the default user account, the file would then reside in:
C:\Users\Default\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Color\Settings
The problem with this is that when new user profiles replicate off of the default account, the CS4 apps prefs point it to that folder for their CSF file, and I get errors, because the new profiles will not have privs to read from that directory.
So, in response to this, I have created a folder in the root of C and stored the CSF there. In Photoshop, Illustrator and InDesign I can load the CSF file from that location manually. Unfortunately, Bridge doesn't see's only the current users color settings folder, so it cannot see it, but if I set the three apps above before I launch Bridge, Bridge recognizes the CSF. The issue is Acrobat, which seems only to see "Custom" for color settings.
Further, when new profiles are replicated off of this setup, it breaks entirely.
So, what I'm hoping is that someone here has had to configure color management for CS4 in a mutliuse environment, and that you may have a strategy for this.
Is there a way to specify the CSF file for each of the apps with a registry key? This would be easiest...
Please, any thoughts are welcomed.
MattFurther testing yields these clarifications:
Putting the CSF file in a folder in the root of C seems to work well for Photoshop, Illustrator and InDesign. They are happy to have it there and work well in the Default account, and in user profiles that are replicated from there.
Acrobat still displays "Custom" in the list of drop downs for CSF files in Color Setup. The settings look to be configured properly, but the name of the CSF file is not shown, which makes us nervous.
Bridge does not like this at all. Previously I had seen it show the CSF file in the list if all the other apps had that CSF file specified, but I cannot recreate that condition. Currently is says that the suite is not synchronized, and it wants to apply one of the standard CSF files supplied with the suite.
Please help! This should be easy!
Matt -
Color Management - Training DVD wanted - Recommendations?
Following my recent problems with colour management at my printers, I need to get my designer and myself up to date with the latest principles of colour management and in particular as they apply to ID CS3.
I have found the following on the internet - Colour Management Essential Training at www.lynda.com A DVD course would be most useful as the designer and I could watch it together. Anyone care to recommend this or another one?I hope you are making progress with your color management issues.
I know you have gotten a lot of information in the forum from various perspectives. Much of the focus has been on the monitor accuracy. It is important to have a good monitor.
But a good monitor will not guarantee a proper conversion to CMYK. It is my belief that the color being off on your last print job is more the result of a faulty conversion than anything else.
I don't want to jump to conclusions and blame Photo Paint. Try the following:
1. In InDesign, right click on the image. Go to Graphics: Image Color Settings. The profile will be "Use Document Default". If you click on the pull down menu, see if there is a profile name above "Use Document default" If there isn't, the image is "untagged." Go to step 2.
2. Open the image in Photo Paint. This app will have some way of measuring CMYK % values. Go to the very darkest area of the image and read the CMYK values. This is the "black point" of the image. Knowing this can help determine the CMYK color space of an untagged image.
Here is more color management advice (hope it helps):
In InDesign, the default is to "Preserve CMYK numbers". This means that any placed CMYK images do not undergo a conversion to a different CMYK when you output a PDF.
This is standard practice in the print industry, but there is much debate about this. To illustrate what preserve numbers means, you can use View: Proof Setup: Custom, in InDesign. Under "Device to Simulate", try selecting different CMYK profiles.
Each time you do this and hit enter, you will notice the color appearance changing on-screen. What is happening is this - the CMYK file number values are not changing. But as you choose different print conditions (newspaper, web, sheetfed, etc) you can see how the color can shift, sometimes quite dramatically.
This is why choosing an ideal destination CMYK is so important. If you choose the wrong one, there is no way you can properly anticipate the print color, even if your monitor is accurate.
As far as Photo Paint goes - I don't know much about it, and I'm not sure what its color management capabilities are. If you do a lot of image editing with this program, it needs to have the proper color management policies in place. You may consider moving to Photoshop eventually, if you plan to do a lot of photo adjustments and manipulation, because it is very compatible with InDesign. Even so - it is not necessary to convert images to CMYK in either of these applications. It is much easier to let InDesign handle the conversions when you output the PDF. -
No matter what I try when I open my pictures in photoshop, they look different than they did in ACR. I have gone throuhg all the color settings and even made sure to synchronize my settings between the two. Still, when I open an image that I've edited in camera raw into photoshop it looks different. Sometimes this is very minor, but sometimes it is enough to ruin an image.
Any ideas?John,
This should not happen.
I can only speculate that you might somehow have some Photoshop default color settings out of whack. Just speculating, but assume that your default RGB profile is Adobe RGB. Then assume that your settings say, Convert to Working RGB under Color Management Policies. All this with no warnings set.
Now if you open the image with ACR in Pro Photo RGB it will be converted to Adobe RGB when it gets to Photoshop. Some colors may be altered if they are out of gamut in the target space. Depending on your conversion options, these changes may be visible. With other profiles such as sRGB vs aRGB the differences will be much more subtle.
If you have off selected under Color Management Policies, you can expect all sorts of bizarre behavior.
Nothing else makes sense to me.
Cheers, Rags :-) -
Major Bug in CS's color profiles, color management & working spaces
Hi everyone:
First of all, thanks so much for taking the time to read and answer my questions!!! I am having a having a major bug in CS3's creative suite. The problem is the following:
1. My settings are not sticking in Photoshop. Last night I selected Adobe RGB as my working space and this morning I woke up with it being Apple RGB.
2. Bridge. When I select one of the thumbnails of my edited files I see the colors and levels changing before my very eyes. My theory is that profiles are being assigned to the images as I select them.
3. Photoshop. Photoshop is assigning embedded profiles (of whatever working space is selected) into my files. I have the color management system on off so this should not be happening.
The only solutions that I came up with were to either uninstall and reinstall creative suite or upgrade to CS4. Does anyone have any other suggestions out there? I would greatly appreciate them.
All my best,
s_keOk open Edit > Color Settings. Where it says "color management policies" make sure that all these are set to "preserve"
• You seem to be saying that photoshop is automatically converting images, without opening them? - this is impossible
• Document profiles are readable at the bottom of the image window and choosing 'document profile'
If something strange is happening reset your Preferences, you will not need to reinstall
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Print - color management dialog box - how to print
I am a bit confused
with the print CS5 color management settings...
When printing on my HP Design Jet 90 I select I click "print settings in the CS5 print dialog and select "Application Managed Color" in the prinder driver.
However the PS print dialog has additional settings on right side under the Color Management.
I select Photoshop manages colors in the Color Handling drop down to make it consistent with the printer driver selection.
However, I amn not sure what to have under the printer prifile drop down. I tried different options and they change how the picture is printed and this dialog was not as complex in CS4 so I am nont sure what selections to make in order to have the PS manage color. and select everything automatically.
Thanks for your help.function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}
j_iliz wrote:
Most things that I have read say to let your printer manage colors.
A while back I tested that. Doesn't turn out to be the best strategy in every case: http://forums.adobe.com/message/3421168#3421168
In my own case, with an (old) HP 932c Deskjet, the printer wants to see the sRGB profile, so that's what I have to put when I choose Photoshop Manages Colors.
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I'm not sure what to set my color management settings up as! I've been told a few different things! I shoot in Adobe RGB, but I've been told to set my working space to SRGB and then to set the color management policies to "Convert to working RGB, CMYK, and Gray." Then I've also been told to set the working space to Adobe RGB (1998) and then under "coversion options" change the "intent" to "perceptual."
Regardless of which setting I try to use, the coloring when I view it in Photoshop is much more yellow than when I view it on my monitor. I have callibrated my monitor, so I'm assuming the problem is within Photoshop. How do I fix this so that the colors match???
Thank you,
JacalynI've been told to set my working space to SRGB and then to set the color management policies to "Convert to working RGB"
Yes, I'd back up what the previous poster says. Where did you get this advice? its extremely poor advice. If its valid at all, this would only apply to people doing an extremely narrow, low end type of work - destined ONLY for the internet.
'Autoconvert' in Color Settings is pretty nasty, it takes every file and converts it. And sRGB is a pretty dumb profile, I've always reckoned - as Bart says, its low gamut, designed for 'lowest common denominator' displays.
Spyder, and your monitor calibration: (because it sounds like your profile isnt being picked up) - I did some research and believe that there may be a "ProfileChooser" application somewhere on PC? - always thought monitor profiles should be stored somewhere in PC control panels. But lord knows whats happening with these settings on PC these days. On mac it does all this much more intuitively of course.;-)
But here's a thread I found where someone had a problem similar to yours…
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=57889 -
CS4 Color Management Settings - Confusing for Brother Laser Colour Printer
I am new to Brother's Color Laser Printer and setting up the Color Management with CS4 for a document. Contacted Brother and they do not have informaton for Adobe Products. Here's what occurs when on the Print Screen:
Under 'Options' — CS4 has instated 'Let InDesign determine Color Management'.
Under Printer Profile: 'RGB-SRGB 1EC6' is indicated. I can pull down the menu for other choices. Brother Printers are indicated but I have no idea which one to choose. What is difficult to ascertain is that in one project, I am using card stock. There is no choice available for other weights of paper as there is in MSW.
Inexperience prevails with using a color laser printer with CS4's settings. In other words, should I leave the choices provided by CS4 rather than choose the Brother Printer settings that cannot be explained by Brother?
HELP!What is difficult to ascertain is that in one project, I am using card
stock. There is no choice available for other weights of paper as there
is in MSW.
With an RGB (no postscript) driver you would access paper and resolution profiles from the Printer... button of the Print dialog. So typically output color would be Composite RGB, Let InDesign Determine Color would be your only Color Handling choice, and you would leave the Printer Profile as Document RGB. Then you would click Print... and you would find paper and resolution settings under the Print Settings pop-up.
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