INDESIGN CS6 : wrong spot to process conversion using LAB system

The separation process of spot colors (PMS) using the L*A*B values is completely out of range with my ripping system (polkadots). Previously with CS5 and the CMYK process, PMS 300 was broke with C100 M56 Y00 K00 values.
In the new CS6, the same Pantone is broken with C100 M65 Y28 K00 values, which is completely out of the range. I encountered the same error on a very big job, which cost me 1 ton of paper…
I tried to force the CMYK separation in the INK MANAGER menu, but it doesn't work properly.
Is there another way to fix it ? Is there any chance to go back and use a good, reliable, CMYK separation system with CS6 ?

Now maybe we should talk about your color management. In theory the LAB mixes should be working better than book values, IF you have the correct color profiles in place for your equipment.
Are you sure about the 28% yellow—I don't see that much yellow with any document CMYK profile.
The conversion from the Lab values depends on your document's CMYK profile and the Color Setting's Conversion Options. Europe ISO with Relative Colormetric and Black Point Compensation turned on returns 100|58|0|0, while US SWOP Perceptual with Black Point off returns 100|65|13|1. So as Peter mentions you have to have the correct profile in place for Lab conversions to work.
I'm working with ISO coated V2 profiles, based on FOGRA, modified ISO 12647-2, specific profiles for printers, designed to limit inkage up to 300%. My RIP is working with the document profile, but has no device link installed.
Thanks anyway for your help, that's fine, works good !!!

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