Indesign CS7 Cloud PMS conversion to cmyk

Previous CS6 pms to cmyk conversion to get the same values as older versions CS5 and older, this was the work around:
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Quit the application
From the folder Adobe InDesign CS6/Presets/Swatch Libraries/, remove all the libraries that have names starting with Pantone+
From any older version of Adobe InDesign (CS2 - CS5) copy all the Pantone libraries with extension .acb and place into: Adobe InDesign CS6/Presets/Swatch Libraries/
Similarly, copy all Pantone libraries with extension .acbl and place into: Adobe InDesign CS6/Presets/Swatch Libraries/Legacy/
Restart your application.
I've tried same thing in Cloud indesign and it dose not work, the cmyk values are not the same , for example pantone 485 C in indesign CS 5 is 95 M 100Y, but now in Cloud Pantone 485 C is 7.32 C, 97.5M,100Y, .71K, this is after replacing all the Pantone swatch files in CC with ones from Indesign CS 5, which worked great for CS6, I know i can use the Bridge Library to get Pantone 485CP which converts to the old 95-100 values but that is not what i want, we get files all the time from clients, now they will be using the same pms numbers and expecting the same colours on their digital proofs.
Any ideas?

no, once pantone 485 has been added to the swatch list, if you go to convert it to cmyk values, it will convert to the wrong values, i know adobe changed this in CS6 in an attempt to create more consistent results for printing devices but it has created prepress problems for printers

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Similarly, copy all Pantone libraries with extension .acbl and place into: Adobe InDesign CS6/Presets/Swatch Libraries/Legacy/
Restart your application.
Any help appreciated
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remark:
- all devices are color calibrated
- I got IMHO a solidknowledge on colors,but not aboutcolor conversions esspecially from spot colors to rastered CMYK colors.
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