Indesign 'hides'

I don't know if this is an InDesign thing or a Leopard issue. Using InDesign CS3.3 on an iMac running 10.5.5. Working on one file in InDesign, I've opened another in order to copy from it and paste into the current document. When I open the 2nd document, it shows for a split second and then both documents disappear. InDesign still shows as being open (little light under it in the dock), but selecting it does nothing. If I'm in the Finder and select the icon, the finder remains active, same if I'm in any other application - InDesign remains inactive.
Expose does not show any InDesign windows, and in the Force Quit menu, InDesign is shown as being open and active. The ONLY way I can get InDesign to respond is to Force Quit and then re-start it. It happens about once every 2 days (for about the last week) - haven't lost anything (yet) but it's getting a little tiresome.
On another note, I have exactly the same setup at work and InDesign WON'T hide!If I option-click outside the document window, the Finder comes to the front but all the InDesign windows remain on screen, and "Hide InDesign" from the menu does nothing...

>>Leopard issue. Been discussed to death here and in the Creative Suite forum.
I've searched all Adobe forums and this is the latest post on this issue. Any resolution anywhere?
I can work around not being able to hide ID, but this one, when opening another file and having ID entirely disappear (but icon in dock indicates it's running), requiring Force Quit, is annoying.
Can anyone direct us to any workarounds in other places?

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I have been hiding and back again and it works!!
j.

Okay, no love. ID CS3 5.0.3; OS X 10.5.4, PPC (G5)
While in InDesign, type command+h. InDesign does not hide. If, after invoking said key-command (or menu item) when I then switch to another app, then back to InDesign, it then hides, and will not unhide. Has to be force-quit.
I'm sure Adobe blames Apple, and Apple blames Adobe, right?

Hide Frame Edges CS3 Tiger G5 processor

Everything I have read seems to indicate that COMMAND+H does not hide frame edges, it hides the entire INDD CS3 app. BUT this is only happening while running Leopard 10.5 on an intel processor machine.
It is happening to me running Tiger 10.4, G5 processor.
What is troubling is that the view menu still shows COMMAND+H is the hide frame edges command. It does not show CONTROL+COMMAND+H as this forum indicated.
NOW the keyboard shortcuts under the edit meny shows CONTROL+COMMAND+H is the hide indesign key command.
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NEWS FLASH
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Multiple paragraph styles in one line

I'm creating a training manual and I am having trouble with paragraph styles. Here's an example of what I am trying to do:
"The Dog walks up the hill"
In the above example, I have created a style for the bolded text and connected it my table of contents. The idea is when I create and update the TOC, "The Dog" will be the entry with the remaining text omitted from the TOC. The issue I am having is because the text is on one line, I cannot have multiple styles. I've tried writing just "The Dog" and then either changing the style or deleting the paragraph break to connect the text below to the main line. Once I erase the paragraph break and the text is on one line, only ONE style is maintained. Now, I can modify the character style; however, because the paragraph style is still the one connected to the TOC, the entire paragraph appears in the TOC.
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ajmiddle18 wrote:
I'm creating a training manual and I am having trouble with paragraph styles. Here's an example of what I am trying to do:
"The Dog walks up the hill"
In the above example, I have created a style for the bolded text and connected it my table of contents. The idea is when I create and update the TOC, "The Dog" will be the entry with the remaining text omitted from the TOC. The issue I am having is because the text is on one line, I cannot have multiple styles. I've tried writing just "The Dog" and then either changing the style or deleting the paragraph break to connect the text below to the main line. Once I erase the paragraph break and the text is on one line, only ONE style is maintained. Now, I can modify the character style; however, because the paragraph style is still the one connected to the TOC, the entire paragraph appears in the TOC.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated! I've searched everywhere to no avail.
Thank you very much for your support.
It depends on the breed of dog.
Is the paragraph always a single line?
Is this dog the leader of the pack? IE, does the phrase you want to keep always begin the paragraph? If so, then you can separate the dog from the pack in the TOC. One way is to surround the pack with a unique character or marker in the main text, like End Nested Style Here, - one after dog, and another after hill, and create a paragraph style for the doggie paragraph to use in the TOC. This paragraph should contain a nested character style that applies microscopic text properties, like paper character color, font .1pt, and horizontal scale .1%. The TOC entries should use nested paragraph styles; the source paragraphs need you to insert the End Nested Style Here markers. The nested style definition in the TOC paragraph styles should apply no character style through the first end nested style marker, then apply microscopic through the next end nested style marker. This will shrink the walks...hill text to an invisible speck, so small that it shouldn't interfere with tab leaders and page-references.
Another approach is to use a single-row table for the heading, with the dog pent nicely in the left cell, and the pack in the right cell. Each cell contains a paragraph, so only extract the dog to the TOC.
Search Google for terms like "InDesign hide part of paragraph in toc knowhowpro," "InDesign suppress part of paragraph in contents knowhowpro," "InDesign two paragraph styles on one line," and similar phrases without quotes for some good discussions and a variety of approaches that include layers, anchored frames, and conditional text.
Search Google for terms like "InDesign conditional text," and "InDesign nested paragraph styles," without quotes for details.
http://forums.adobe.com/message/3206266 has a long discussion that may shed some additional light.
HTH
Regards,
Peter
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Hi Bob,
I've read some of the InDesign-specific/Leopard threads. I can live with the currently open document not hiding when the rest of InDesign hides. I have not read/seen others.
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Does it not know that some times Apple-H hides the application, and other times it does not.
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> Seriously though, what ever happened to customer service, where it didn't matter who was at fault, or how big the problem was...the vendor would do anything to make things right. ... Sigh...you just don't get it.
No spungraphics,
b you
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b twice
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He has done so in a highly professional manner. As an Adobe employee he has kept his personal feelings out of the debate.
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You have given vague comments that somehow you "know" that it would not be a big deal for Adobe to "fix it."
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