InDesign missed to update a linked InCopy

Hello the following happened in a InDesign/InCopy-Workflow:
We have several Editors and a view Designers. Everyone is working with PC (Windows XP) InCopy CS2 and InDesign CS2. The Files (incx and indd) are stored on a centralized filestore, so no copying is done.
A Designer opened a Indesign file yesterday where several InCopyFiles are linked. This morning the editors made several changes on these InCopy Files.
This afternoon the designer again opened the InDesign-File updated the linked articles and checked an article out to make some fine tuning and checked it in again.
After that an editor regognized that his changes of this morning disappeared in the InCopy-File.
Investigations at backup (hourly snapshot) showed:
- that the InCopy had been stored with the content of the yesterday's InDesign-File.
- that the editors saved there documents in a correct way
Had anyone had such a problem before or does anyone know what the problem could be?
Normally it should be impossible, I think. Nothing the less it happend at least once. (Maybe it happened before, editors mentioned lost editings three times over the last two years, but there where no snapshot available anymore, so we thought the editor missed to save or something like that)

>Also, once InDesign crashes, it corrupts the file that was linked to the InDesign document that was being updated.
Are you absolutely sure that it's not the other way around - i.e., that the linked file gets corrupted, which then causes InDesign to crash? I ask this because we recently had a client with a similar sounding problem. At first we also thought that InDesign was corrupting the file, but eventually discovered that the file server on which the links resided had some bad RAM which was causing the PSD files to occasionally get corrupted.
Photoshop is apparently more tolerant of some corruptions than InDesign. When we'd open one of the problematic PSDs in Photoshop, we'd get a dialog box alerting us that there was corruption, but the file would open. InDesign, on the other hand, would crash VERY hard when placing or updating such a linked file.

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