InDesign pdf into Quark

When I import a pdf file made with InDesign into Quark some of the type disappears when printing. I can see it on the screen but it does not appear on the printed page. It will be in the middle of a paragraph just one line. Not a whole sentence or paragraph but one line at various points on the page.

I'm sorry Bob. you're right from here to China. Please forgiveme.
i only wanted to help solving a specific problem with a specific solution, because is very frustrating when something is not working.
there is a latin-american point of view of what assistance, or support are, that prays "we have to do it with the tools we have" (in spanish "lo atamos con alambre" = "tie it with wire" (?) approx) reasons are short budgets, or too much beaurocracy, that makes the optimal solution never cames o cames toooooo late, and needs of quick responses, sometimes the "wire" is the only solution. Unfortunately, after years of dealing with problems, this kind of thinking starts to take your entire brain.

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not sure what you mean by "what type of PDF". It's a PDF that a client has made in InDesign that I am importing into Quark.
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The Illustrator EPS works fine so unless someone can tell me what my clients should save differently in InDesign I'll be using Illus. EPS....

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I have set my bleed in Document Setup.
I export to PDF and make sure I check "Use Document Settings" for bleed (it reflects the same 3mm I set up in Document Setup).
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Yeah you have to import the image again in order to get the bleed to show. InDesign (to my knowledge) also requires you to relink the image with a different setting in the event you don't place the file with bleed.
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I need help with converting an InDesign file into a PDF file.
I've tried looking into the program and seeing if i can do it, but it is not giving me the option.
I need to be able to do this for work purposes.
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Try Exporting. There are also number of useful Export PDF presets that come with design.
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Ok I have a lot of PDFs that I need to place into indesign in their own file, then re-export back as a PDF again.
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Thanks harbs
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I can batch process them in Acrobat to Print to PDF and that works for some, but not all the PDFs, it won't print some of them back to PDF.
I have 100's of these "bad pdfs" and it would be great to be able to place them all into separate indesign files and export out as pdf again. It will be tedious to run the PDF importer and export for all of the files.
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InCopy is a solution, but it's not the only viable solution.
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It totally depends on the clients technical ability with computers. Last year I taught over 30 authors of ours how to use InCopy. Some were receptive, some were dubious, some were totally clueless.
And on the dubious and totally clueless I spent more time troubleshooting their problems than I would normally with a Word/RTF option.
Some people are capable of switching to InCopy or even know how to use it in the first place. For anyone never used InDesign or InCopy before then it's a massive learning curve to jump from MS Word et al word processors, to InCopy.
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Yeh if the client is comfortable with InCopy then it's the way forward.
But in most cases, in my experience, it's faster and more efficient to Export the text as RTF and let the author update the RTF. That leaves you in control of reinserting the text and formatting it correctly. Rather than letting the client add bold, underline, italics, superscript, subscripts, crazy workarounds because they didn't know how to do it properly. And in the end you end up with 2 or 3 times the amount of work than is necessary, just cleaning up what the client has done in InCopy that does not suit the overall formatting of the publications.

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Yes, you are right, I am stuck for a different reason, it does places the second page.
What I think is going on, and maybe there is a better approach to it than the one I am going about it: when I have single page pdf for the 1st page and single page pdf for the 2nd page, my script first tries to upload 1st pdf as multi-page just in case there is only one pdf with both files. And for some reason it uploads single page pdf twice (into the second InDesign page as well when there is no second page in the 1st pdf [If I could avoid that all together would be great]). So my script verifies if the pdf uploaded into the 2nd page is 1st page of 1st pdf then it deletes it. And then it looks if there is a file for the second page, and uploads it. So my new challenge is that when it verifies what page of the pdf is uploaded into the 2nd page of InDesign after the 1st pdf upload, it just crashes, and it worked with the previous way of placing pdfs (the green line of the script).
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