InDesign PDF prints bleeds

Hi..
I exported a .pdf from InDesign CS2. There is a .25" bleed all around.
I opened it in adobe reader & I print it out & I get the bleeds printed too.
I do not want the bleed printed, how do I fix this? I do not remember this happening before. When I print from InDesign the bleeds are cropped off. If you need any more info let me know.
Thank you.
Jules

You said "I exported a .pdf from InDesign CS2. There is a .25" bleed all around."
And then you said bleed wasn't selected in your export settings..
You won't get bleed if you haven't selected to get it. So it must have been selected when you exported that particular
document. There are two bleed settings. One is the setting you define in the export dialogue. That needs to be set at 0.
But you might also have a check mark in Use Document Bleed Settings which is OK if you don't have a bleed defined for
the document, but if you do, then that's what you will get.
Changing you Reader printing settings to print the full size page area is simply ignoring the bleed.
k

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