Indesign spot colour gradient??

Hi everyone, I have setup a document with a spot gold 872c and would like to
use this as a gradient from solid 872 to a tint of 872 back to a solid 872.
How is this done? I have greated the spots and included them on a grad
but cant change the centre 872 to a tint?
please help..
lister

Would that just be if they are double striking it, Bob?
Granted I've never tried tinting or gradienting a metallic ink before, it's always been 100% solids.
As Bob said, if you're unsure then you need to speak with your printer. And that goes for any job that you're doing. Always fill them in what is involved especially in areas that you're not sure of yourself.

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