Info on Service procurement and Material procurement in Purchasing

hi
we are dealing with a purchase register for services report and a purchase register for material report.
Can anyone explain in detail about material procurement and service procurement in MM and
what are all the documents created/ involved in the flow and explain the relationships between these documents ( between PO & GRN&INVOICE like i,e 1:m or 1:1)?
1. PURCHASING - MATERIAL PROCUREMENT
PO->GRN->INVOICE.
2.PURCHASING - SERVICE PROCUREMENT
PO->_?_-> INVOICE.
And differences between material and service procurement.

Hi,
Material POs.
One PO, Item can have many GRN Items.
One GRN Item can have multiple Invoice items.
This is same for services as well.
In Services, the equivalent of GRN is acceptance of the service entry sheets.
Thanks,
Krishnan

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Direct procurement and Indirect Procurement in SAP AFS

Hi,
Can you diffrentiate between Direct procurement and Indirect Procurement in SAP AFS.
thanks
Aki

Hi Aki,
Direct Procurement
Raw Material and Production Goods
Order Qty: Large
Value: Industry specific (Like shirt in apparel industry)
Direct procurement supports the conversion of planned requirements to purchase orders.
Primary Processes-Direct Procurement
1. Determination of the materials and services required.
2. Create requisition.
3. Request for the quotation.
4. Quotation Management.
5. Vendor selection.
6. Create Purchase Order.
7. Goods Receipt and Invoice Receipt.
8. Invoice Verification/ Vendor Payment.
Indirect Procurement
Maintenance, Repair and Operating (MRO) Supplies
Order Qty: Low
Value: Generic (Machine Spare Parts in any industry)
Indirect procurement supports the purchasing of indirect materials and subcontracting.
This process can be dealt with using standard functions such as material requirements planning, purchase requisition, stock transport order, transportation planning and the handling of internal deliveries.
The cross-plant, internal procurement of materials can be carried out within one company code (intercompany) or by using several company codes (cross company).
Primary Processes-Indirect Procurement
1. Requisitioning
2. Purchase Order Management
3. Receiving
4. Financial Settlement
Hope it helps.
Regards,
Anirban Roy

Direct Procurement and Indirect Procurement

Please explain the different between direct procurement and Indirect procurement??

Hi,
Direct Procurement
Raw Material and Production Goods
Order Qty: Large
Value: Industry specific (Like shirt in apparel industry)
Direct procurement supports the conversion of planned requirements to purchase orders.
Primary Processes-Direct Procurement
1. Determination of the materials and services required.
2. Create requisition.
3. Request for the quotation.
4. Quotation Management.
5. Vendor selection.
6. Create Purchase Order.
7. Goods Receipt and Invoice Receipt.
8. Invoice Verification/ Vendor Payment.
Indirect Procurement
Maintenance, Repair and Operating (MRO) Supplies
Order Qty: Low
Value: Generic (Machine Spare Parts in any industry)
Indirect procurement supports the purchasing of indirect materials and subcontracting.
This process can be dealt with using standard functions such as material requirements planning, purchase requisition, stock transport order, transportation planning and the handling of internal deliveries.
The cross-plant, internal procurement of materials can be carried out within one company code (intercompany) or by using several company codes (cross company).
Primary Processes-Indirect Procurement
1. Requisitioning
2. Purchase Order Management
3. Receiving
4. Financial Settlement
Hope it helps.
Regards
KK

What is direct procurement and indirect procurement?

Dear Gurus,
What is What is direct procurement and indirect procurement from purchasing point of view.
Pls briefly explain with examples.
Thanks in advance..

Direct procurement. Direct categories are all goods purchased by the company which directly enter into the production process of that company. For the food industry as an example, ingredients and packaging will be the key direct procurement categories.
Indirect Procurement. Indirect categories are all the goods and services that are bought by the company to enable its activity. This entails a wide scope, including marketing related services (media buying, agencies), IT related services (hardware, software), HR related services (recruitment agencies, training), facilities management and office services (Telecoms, furniture, cleaning, catering, printers), or utilities (gas, electricity, water)...etc
Regards
Lakshminath Gunda

Service Cost and Material Reservation

Dear Experts,
We have came up with a requirement that maintenance service costs and material requirements for the same to be captured through PM orders.
- A budget will be used to paid maintenance service costs
- Service costs are to be paid for external parties(framework PR will be raised through PM Order)
- Material requirements for the maintenance to be mentioned in the same order but it should NOT consume the budget.
- Only cost of service should consume the budget.
However when i tried, using control key PM03, budget get consumed when materials are requested.
How do i cater the requirement.
Thanks in Advance...

Sank N.
whn u reserve a material in maintenance order. Material will have cost element assigned to it (via. valuation class) this cost element will be mapped with a cost center. That cost center should be mentioned in your work order settlement rule. so then your material cost will be effecting cost center.
For service you are having WBS so that WBS you will maintain in same work order settlement rule. Your service cost will effect that WBS element.
Both are different process.
For this purpose only i had requested you to ask your FI team and confirm for cost element and cost center mapping.
Refer below eg so your problem will be clear.
Cost Element -1 (service) is mapped to WBS and Cost Center
Cost Element -2 (material) is mapped to WBS and Cost Center.
Or
Cost Element -1 (service) with WBS
Cost Element -2 (material) with Cost Center
If first case then you will have budge mix up problem
If second case then no budget mix up problem

Service Master and Material Master relation

Hi Friends,
Our client requirement is to procure and sale same services.
and client wants to post the services to different G/L accounts for ex: if I am raising a sale order or Purchase order,
then for each different service line item to be posted to different G/L accounts.
Initially I thought of creating the service master with different valuation classes but when the same thing comes to sales then with service master they cannot create the sale order.
Hence kindly advice in this case whether to go with the service master creation and create the PO's with the service masters
or   go with the creation of material master with the services material type with different valuation classes?
Thanks in Advance.
regards,
Sasi Kanth J

Hi,
For services the concerned entries have to be maintained in table T030.
The system will then suggest the G/L accounts as per the valuation class
maintained in table T030 (Standard Accounts Table, transaction OBYC).
The system will determine the
G/L account depending on the following criteria:
T001K-BWMOD
BKLAS
T001-KTOPL
T163K-KOMOK
Services level is one level below materials, which results in
some inherent restrictions compared to materials. In case of
services the values have to be maintained in the table T030.
Regards,
Edit

Service Text and Material PO text

Hi All,
We are facing problems with SAP Texts in ECC 6.0
We have maintained some texts in Service long text and material PO text in respective masters. While creating PO we can change the Material Po Text. But when we try to edit the service long text in PO, system says it is password protected. The same is the case for material PO text while creating PR.
Can some one highlight what is the password for changing the text or how the same can be changed.
Regards,
Prashant Tawde

Hi,
tyr this
SPRO>MM>Purchasing>PO>Define Screen Layout at Document Level
but it will be applicable for service Po also
check following link also
[http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04s/helpdata/en/67/232037ebf1cc09e10000009b38f889/content.htm]
Regards
Kailas Ugale

Vat calculation to be done on labour service charges and material price.

Hi exeprt
I have scenario where i required to pay vat on labour service charges nd material price.
Calculation
material price is 1000, in there is additional service on tht we pay service charges.
Material price 1000
lab service charges 12
Vat should on on 1012
Regard
Nabil

HI
see You have your tax procedure in OBYZ t-code
There you will have subtotal price+excise duty as subtotal in your tax procedure your excise will zero so remain only material price
subtotal 591 =material+service tax -statical
592=service tax 10% on 591
593 =service tax 2 % on 591
594 =service tax 1% on 591
after that subtotal 595 ==from 591 To 594 -stastical
596===vat on 595
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Kailas Ugale

Service master and material type 'service'

Hi everybody.
I am a bit confused about "Service"
There is a service master that we can use to store and procure service.
Also we can use material master to store 'service' using material type 'service' and procure service in that way.
I want to know what is the difference between the two ? When shall I use what ?

Hi
If you do not want to use 'External Service Management', you can use materials of type Service (DIEN).
This will be similar to any other account assigned material PO with free text. Instead of using free text, you are using material master and also helps you in identifyign service purchases from other material purchases. You will not use item category 'D' in this case. You do GR here.
Service masters are used when you use item category 'D' ('External Service Management'). There are additional flexibility of defining service specifications, service outlines, using service entry sheet etc here.
Best regards
Ramki

Differenc between Service PR and Material PR.

Hi,
Why we cannot change the currnecy in a service PR but we can change the Currency in a normal PR.
Why the difference is existing?
Thanks

hi,
as per my understanding,since the currency is copied from material master i.e co.code for normal PR ,here we can change the currency.
comming to service PO here we dont maintain any master data and val class so sys will take the default co.code curr which cannot be changed.

Query on Procurement and Invoice Verification for Purchase Scheme by Vendor

Dears,
This is K.Hari Hara Ganesh.
I have a query.
Scenario
Vendor commits us if the Purchasing Qty is 200 Kgs for a Material, then 10 Kgs will be given Free of Cost. If it is lesser than 200, no free.
Once received, my Stock should be updated for 210 Kgs, wheras I have to pay the Vendor for 200 Kgs.
How this scenario is handled in SAP ?
If anybody can give me Step by Step creation till Configuration, Master Maintenance, PO, GR, Invoice Verification and Payment by explanation or screen shots, it will be helpful for me.
Thanks in Advance.
Regards,
K.Hari Hara Ganesh

Dear Nisha,
Thank you very much for the immediate response.
You have asked me to create 2 line items.
Still I have some doubts
1. Is it possible to create the same Material as 2 line items, first line with 200 Kgs and the second line with 10 Kgs for the same Material.
2. Also, my Purchase Tolerance is 2 %, which means for the PO Qty 200 Kgs, I should not accept more than 204 Kgs (200 + 4)
3. Since the 10 Kgs is the scheme given by the Vendor, my system should accept 210 Kgs, irrespective of my Purchase Toleranace.
I will be very happy, if I receive the solution for this scenario too.
Thanks in Advance.
Regards,
K.Hari Hara Ganesh

Fixed and Non fixed vendor for material procurement

Hi,
We need to have fixed vendors to procure materials but incase if we couldnt find the materials with the fixed vendor or if we need to procure the same material from a different vendor. Please let me know if we need to maintain source list in this scenario, we also dont maintain any agreements with vendors.
Thank you.

Hi
try this
1) In sorce list fixed your vendor for material and plant combination ME01
2) for another source create info record for second vendor and material ,combination in ME11
Regards
Kailas ugale

DIRECT MATERIAL PROCUREMENT and INDIRECT MATERIAL PROCUREMENT

please explain , what is the differance between DIRECT MATERIAL PROCUREMENT and INDIRECT MATERIAL PROCUREMENT.please explain with example.

source: http://www.ftpress.com/articles/article.aspx?p=24168
Procurement materials can be broken down into two major categories: indirect and direct.
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Indirect procurement involves any commodity or service that a company buys that does not result directly in finished goods.
u2022
Indirect procurement can be divided into two groups: ORM (Operations Resource Management) materials such as office products and travel services, and MRO (Maintenance, Repair and Operations) materials such as replacement parts.
u2022
Direct procurement involves materials purchased for use in the manufacturing or distribution supply chain that are "directly" related to the production of finished goods.

Self service procurement and plan driven procurement in classic scenario

hai friends,
i have configured self service procurement and now i am configuring plan driven procurement in classic scenario.my doubt is suppose a shopping cart is created and placed in a sourcing application of the professional buyer.And assume he accomplished sourcing activity and created purchase order .Now purchase order is created locally or in the backed.i am using classic scenario ,now can u tell where the purchase order is located? if i want to place that particular purchase order in SRM it self what will i do? thanks in advance.

Hi Chandra
before going to select Business scenario (self service, plan driven..etc), you must freeze the technical scenario. Depends upon your technical scenario, your PO will be created .
Where PO is created it is called leading system. It is SAP standard.
If you were selected Classic- Po created in R/3.- R/3 is a leading system .
if you were select ECS- > PO will created in SRM and Copy also will be created in R/3 system. In EBP only you can edit the PO not in r/3. here SRM is a Leading system.
regards
Muthu

Same vendor for Procurement and Services

Hi,
How to use the same vendor code for Both Procurement and External Services, to trigger different pricing procedures.
Please suggest.
Thanks in advance,
njs.

Hi,
Pricing procedure for Procurement depends on :
1. Schema Groups: Vendor
2. Schema Groups for Purchasing Organizations
System will look for the combination for both the schema group.
Pricing procedure for External service depends on :
1. Document category -- e.g. - RFQ , Pr or PO
2. Document type --- NB , UB
Regards,
Shailesh

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