Info palette or eyedropper sample?

I'm trying to find some sort of eyedropper but the loupe doesn't show rgb info. it also seems i have a problem with the clipping indicator so i wanted to do a check on the pixel info but the loupe doesn't provide RGB info. is this normal?:
http://www.3eige.com/ars/hotareas.jpg
there is no way that is clipping or even close to 99% white.
Dual G5 2.0 Mac OS X (10.4.3)

Numeric readout has already been identified as a major missing feature. You can adjust the hot area threshold in preferences, if that helps.

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I just upgraded to Photoshop CS4 from CS3 at work.We print solely to a Lightjet 430 in RGB. We are constantly sent flattened images that contain a clients logo that must match a specific PMS color. My method is to marque the logo, set a color sample point, choose a correct color from a color chart that is printed on the correct media, sample correct color from color chart file, use a curve to alter the original values to the correct values for printing, then use blend if sliders to exclude all other colors and viola perfect PMS matching in RGB.
Yesterday, we upgraded to CS4 because we keep receiving CS4 files from our client. To my amazement my technique will not work anymore. I don't know if this is a bug or something Adobe has changed on purpose. I checked and I do have the eyedropper set to sample all layers. What I've noticed is that in CS3, the info palette sample shows the current value of the sampled point. If you open the blending options, the info palette shows you the original value on the left and as you adjust the sliders, it shows the current value on the right. In CS4, from the get go, the info palette shows the original value on the left and the current value on the right. When you open the blend options, the numbers flip flop and any adjustments to the sliders have no effect on either value. Surely this is a bug. What reason could there be for removing this bit of functionality? Or is there just some setting I need to change? This color matching trick is something I use on a daily basis and if Adobe has changed this then CS4 is totally useless to me. Has anyone else noticed this? Does anyone know a workaround?
Thanks in advance.
Wade

This is an interesting workflow, I don't know if I fully understand this part:
Wade Hulsey wrote:
then use blend if sliders to exclude all other colors and viola perfect PMS matching in RGB.
By this do you mean, the original color values correspond with underlying, and the new color values on top?
You may be able to use Replace Color (although that is not available as an adjustment layer).

CS6 Info Palette and Group Adjustment Layer Bug

The Photoshop CS6 Info Palette is not showing before and after in Grouped Adjustment Layers.
It only shows the after values on both sides of the Palette.
Has anyone seen this issue and found a way to correct it?
Interestingly, here at work we have two macs with the problem and two without the problem.
The two macs with this problem are:
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OSX Lion 10.7.5
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OSX Lion 10.7.5
Does anyone know what might cause this problem?
A little frustrated by this.

I am also having this issue. It works on my MacBook, but not my iMac. The only difference I see is that my MacBook is running 13.0 Extended, but the problem iMac is running 13.0.4 Standard. On the problem computer I have tried logging in as a new user (clean prefs) and the issue still exists. I've tried changing profiles, preview and proof settings with no difference. I've also tried different eyedropper settings (current layer, all layers, etc) with no difference. If I drag the correction layer out of the group, the readings show correctly. If I move them back INTO the group, they only show the corrected values. Very odd.
Problem computer specs:
Photoshop CS6 Standard (13.0.4 x64)
iMac 21.5" 2.7GHz quad-core Intel Core i5
16 GB 1600MHz DDR3
NVIDIA GeForce GT 640M 512M
OSX Mountain Lion 10.8.3
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Eyedropper sample points changing in CS4

Hola. I upgraded to CS4 a couple of weeks ago and having issuse with the eyedropper sample points
Here's scenario. I select the eyedropper, and shift click to add a samplepoint on a base image, (so I can try and match some numbers via the info pallete). Then I add layer which I want to colour match, and add a curves adjustment.
So far so good. But as soon as I make a clipping mask with the adjustment layer, the sample point information disappears. I need the info to see if I'm matching the numbers - but it's visually confusing to have the adjustment layer effecting everything. What gives?
Also the color sampler information used to remain locked - it now changes depending on what layer I have selected. (I have 'sample all layers' selected in the eyedropper prefs BTW)
I remember reading about some buggy behaviour in CS4 like this - but surely this has been ironed out by now?
Cheers. Dave
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Your observation also seems to hold for CS5.
But the Samplers disappear on clipping masking only if the Layer to which the Curves Layer is clipped is empty at those points.
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CS6 cursor misregistration with Info palette coordinates

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I've trashed my preferences, restarted, etc. Running version 13.0.5, OS 10.6.8, iMac, 4 GB memory.

I am also having this issue. It works on my MacBook, but not my iMac. The only difference I see is that my MacBook is running 13.0 Extended, but the problem iMac is running 13.0.4 Standard. On the problem computer I have tried logging in as a new user (clean prefs) and the issue still exists. I've tried changing profiles, preview and proof settings with no difference. I've also tried different eyedropper settings (current layer, all layers, etc) with no difference. If I drag the correction layer out of the group, the readings show correctly. If I move them back INTO the group, they only show the corrected values. Very odd.
Problem computer specs:
Photoshop CS6 Standard (13.0.4 x64)
iMac 21.5" 2.7GHz quad-core Intel Core i5
16 GB 1600MHz DDR3
NVIDIA GeForce GT 640M 512M
OSX Mountain Lion 10.8.3
Working computer specs:
Photoshop CS6 Extended (13.0 x64)
MacBook Pro 17-inch, Mid 2010 2.53 GHz Intel Core i5
8 GB 1067 MHz DDR3
NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M 512 MB
OSX Mountain Lion 10.8.2

Color densitometer or info palette when editing colors?!?

I am new to Premiere Pro, so forgive me if I have overlooked the obvious, but I can't find any sort of info palette that displays color info when using color correction tools within Premiere Pro. I have searched this forum and the Adobe Help info, but haven't found any info.
Considering that Premiere Pro has such powerful color capabilities, I would expect there is a way to measure changes being made. Coming from a Photoshop background, I rely on the densitometer and info palette for accuracy and repeatability. Although Premiere Pro's video scopes display a lot of info (I wish Photoshop had these!), they are not very precise tools. Having a way to measure actual color values would seem critical when matching color between two different pieces of footage.
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If such features exist, I hope someone will point them out to me. If they exist in a third party color editing plug-in for Premiere Pro, that would be a very compelling reason to buy it. Any suggestions on this would be most appreciated.
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Dave

David - Thanks for your reply. For my work flow in Photoshop, the densitometer and info palette are "must have" tools for repeatability and accuracy of colors, as well as many, many other uses. I calibrate my monitor and control my environment lighting, but recognize that my eyes and color perception will never be as consistent as a densitometer.
I am certain that Premiere Pro users would benefit greatly from these tools, and find it surprising that Premiere Pro doesn't have them. One obvious example would be matching the look of multiple film sources. Sure, you can make rounds of tweaks and preview them as they transition from one to the next. However, a method to read and compare color values would dramatically speed up that process.
I have started working with Premiere Pro's video scopes, and think these would be wonderful tools to work with in Photoshop. BTW, Jeff Sengstack has a good tutorial on the lynda.com web site. However, watching his videos, its quite apparent that he resorts to a lot of trial and error that would often be minimized with the ability to read color values.

Photoshop CS6 Info Palette & Adjustment Layers

I have searched but can't find an answer to my question so I thought this may be the best place to ask.
When I am using adjustment layers in PS 13.0.3 (mountain lion), I notice that the info palette is not giving me a before and after readout of the adjustment.
e.g. I add a curves adjustment layer and remove some cyan from the highlight end, I can see on screen that cyan is removed but the info palette gives me 2 readings, both the same. This can make it difficult if I want to remove an exact amount of colour. I have the info palette is set up the same as every previous version of photoshop I have used, 1st reading actual colour, 2nd reading cmyk. I know this is a bit difficult to explain so I have included an image showing the palette, CS6 on the left and CS5 on the right, same image, same coordinates. CS5 is showing that 4% cyan has been removed, was 18% now 14%, CS6 is showing what it is now.
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96 GB 1333 HZ DDR3 ECC
ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024 MB
OSX Lion 10.7.5
The two macs that work correctly are:
Mac Pro
2 x 3.06 Ghz 6-Core Intel Xeon
96 GB 1333 HZ DDR3 ECC
ATI Radeon HD 5870 1024 MB
OSX Lion 10.7.5
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Can i enlarge the fonts in the history palette or info palette?

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Dude, I really hate to bust your stones, but do you explore Photoshop at all on your own accord, or do you post here with every question that comes to mind?
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