Info source (direct and fexible)

info source with flexible update: it will use update rule
info source with direct update: master data dont use update rule and written on master data table directly
My question: can we use direct update for transaction data
and flexible update for master data?

Hi,
you cannot use direct update for transaction data.
but you can use both flexible and direct update for master data.

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While creating Update rules -"Error Info source does not exist"

While creating an update rule I am getting an error that Info source doesnot exist though the inf source is active.
here is error:
No communication structure exists in version abc... A
Message no. RSAU251
Diagnosis
In order to be able to maintain the update rules an active communication structure must be available.
Procedure
This error message can have two causes.
No active communication structure exists.
Activate the communication structure in the Data Warehousing Workbench.
No communication structure exists for the InfoSource.
Create a communication structure in the Data Warehousing Workbench for the InfoSource.
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Thanks,
Vasu
Edited by: Matt on Apr 26, 2010 9:31 AM

Hi Vasu,
as it clearly shows below message
No communication structure exists for the InfoSource.
Create a communication structure in the Data Warehousing Workbench for the InfoSource.
Create an info source first and assign it to your datasource and map the fileds in transfer rules and activate it.
Then try to create the update rules between your target and info source.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Reddy

No PSA for Info Source

HI All,
We have the flow -
Cube- C013 to DSO- 610
Cube- C016 to DSO- 610
For that we generated Export data source from CUbe- C013 to DSO-610 and Export data source from CUbe- C016 to DSO-610.
As of now we followed the transport procedure from BI DEV to BI QAS
Collect all objects in 3.x format for 8xx objects (DS,Comm.str,IS,Tr.Rules) and transported to BI QAS.It works fine. All works normal, without doing any Replication/ RESTORE 3.X procedure Source is MS SQL using DB Connect.
I checked in BI QAS all 8xx data sources and all shows in CONTENT version BI7.0.
Issue =Problem for 8B05_C013 :
For this development:
We transported 8B05_C016 (DS,Comm.str,IS,Tr.Rules) to BI QAS and its transported and working successfully for C016 .
and
We transported 8B05_C013 (DS,Comm.str,IS,Tr.Rules) to BI QAS and shows in BI QAS as DS 3.x with the MODIFIED version and throws the below ERROR -
There is no PSA for Info Source 8B05_C013_OA and source system PBQCLNT150
Transfer structure 8B05_C013_OA NOT activated successfully Activate manually
I checked in BI DEV and BI QAS for the Data Sources 8B05_C013 and 8B05_C016, I canu2019t see any difference.
I think there is no replication needed for DB connect. If source is r/3 it requires replication.
Why it is giving problem for 8B05_C013 only?.
We implemented:
We applied Note 518426 , transported Data source objects and executed RS_TRANSTRU_ACTIVATE_ALL but no use.
The Problem still exists Data source is in MODIFIED version in BI QAS. And planning to apply The Notes 1387854 and 1479294 require - Support Packages 23 or 25.
Our Bi QAS is = BI7.0 SP18
Can you please let me know :
what is the exact reason for the NO PSA error?
Cause ?
And the procedure or Solution to follow?
Thanks in advance.
Sri.

HI ,
Thanks for your help.
We can't edit in BI QAS as it is a quality system.
Through transports - we transported all ACTIVE objects from BI Dev and many times we did transports. But no use.
Thanks,
Sri

Data Source And Info Source

Hi Experts
Can anyone tell technical difference between data source and info soure ? Where data source will be and where will be info source .
Kumar

Hi Kumar,
DataSources include extraction source structures and transfer structures. Data is staged in the extraction source structure and the transfer structure, and transferred into the BW system by ALE or tRFC.
An InfoSource is always a quantity of Info Object that logically belong together. The structure in which these are stored is called a communication structure.
There are basically two types of InfoSources.
InfoSources with flexible updating
Info Sources with direct updating
suresh

Direct and Flexible loading for Attributes for a Info-object?

Dear all,
Is it possible to have both Direct and Flexible update for Attributes of an Info-object from two different data sources from the same source system(R/3) . The reason being that the first data source can not be extended in R/3.
When this scenario is tried For Flexible loading The data loading is not successful in BW.No errors/dumps found.
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Amu

In this case I start and activate the whole data flow again to hopefully get an error message. If this still has no success I'd open an OSS message. Even if you have made a mistake you should get an error message somewhere.
Some other places you might check:
SM50 to see if the job is still running
DB02 to see DB locks and tablespace problems
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Difference between source list and info records

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What is the difference between Source List and Info Records?
Thanks N Regards
Anandasiva

Hi,
The source list is the list which shows the sources from which you can procure the material. If you have ticked the source list requirement in the material master, then you can procure the material only from the vendors mentioned in the source list.
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INFO SOURCE in BI 7.

hai friends,
I'm new to BI 7.. UP TO BW 3.5 we are using infosource .. but with out infosource also we can upload the data into data targets in BI 7.0
then ,what is the use of INFO SOURCE in BI 7.0
could u plz tell me the situation .. that where we can use this infosource in latest version.
thanks
@jay

Hi
The decision to use an InfoSource depends on how the effort involved in maintaining the InfoSource and any potential changes in the scenario can be minimized.
1. Data Flow Without an InfoSource:
The DataSource is connected directly to the target by means of a transformation.
Since there is only one transformation, performance is better.
However, if you want to connect multiple DataSources with the same structure to the target, this can result in additional maintenance effort for the transformation, since you need to create a similar transformation for each DataSource.
You can avoid this if the DataSource is the same, it just appears in different source systems. In this case, you can use source system mapping when you transport to the target system so that only one transformation has to be maintained in the test system. The same transformation is created automatically for each source system in the production system.
2. Data Flow with One InfoSource
The DataSource is connected to the target by means of an InfoSource. There is one transformation between the DataSource and the InfoSource and one transformation between the InfoSource and the target.
We recommend that you use an InfoSource if you want to connect a number of different DataSources to a target and the different DataSources have the same business rules. In the transformation, you can align the format of the data in DataSource with the format of the data in the InfoSource. The required business rules are applied in the subsequent transformation between the InfoSource and the target. You can make any changes to these rules centrally in this one transformation, as required.
3. Data Flow with Two InfoSources
We recommend that you use this type of data flow if your data flow not only contains two different sources, but the data is to be written to multiple identical (or almost identical) targets. The required business rules are executed in the central transformation so that you only have to modify the one transformation in order to change the business rules. You can connect sources and targets that are independent of this transformation.
Hope it helps
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Teja

Info Source creation in BI7

Hi,
How do i create a master data info source in BI7?
Please give steps if possible.
Regards,
Nomsa

Hi,
if you want to do Flexible update you can go for Infosource and in BI7 No need to create infosource, you can directly create Transofmations and DTP from the Datasource to the Infoobject( Datasource->Infoobject).
To do, Righclick on the Datasource of the infoobject,and choose create DTP. Select Target(infoboject).
This will propose automatic transformations. Save and activate transformations and DTP. Now you can schedule DTP to load the data to infoobject.
otherwise if you want to create Infosource.
1.Choose Infoprovider tab in RSA1, and choose your application component.
2.Rightclick on the App.Comp. and choose create Infosource.
3. Use your Datasource as template for the Infosource.
4. Now infosource creation screen will occur, there activate.
5. Now, rightclick on your created Infosource and choose create Transformations.
6.Select Source(by default the target will be the Infosource). Activate the transformations.
7.Now , you are having the data upto Infosource. Again choose Create Transformations on the Infosource and choose target as your Infoobject and source as your Infosource. activate it.
8. you can create DTP , by rightclick on the Ifoobject.
rgrds,
v.sen.

Info Source

Hi Every body,
In Bi 7.0 normally we are not create the info source.only for inventory management purpose only they are create a info source.is there only inventory they included insource in work bench is any other purpose.
Thanks 4 alll

Hi,
Infosource: its used when you want to load data from more than 1datasource to the target(s).
and in BI7.0 you can load data from datsource direct to target only if the amount of data to be loaded is less
(option used - load data direct to target in datasource)
For huge data load Infosource - DTP is required.
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How to load data into an ods from multiple info sources.

hi all...
i am given a task to load data into an ods from 3 infosources ...
can someone plz give me the flow .
thank u in advance..

Hi Hara Pradhan,
You have to create 3 update rules by giving the 3 different infosources while creating each update rule. And u have to create the infopackages under each infosource. with this u can load the data to the same data target from multiple info sources.
Hope it helps!
Assign points if it helps!

Use of info source in BI 7.0

Hi,
Please priovide me the informations
1) why info source is using in BI 7.0 while corporate memory is in the flow?
2) expert routine is using when our requirement was not satisfied with the standard rules, transformations. i want to know which routine is gud and advisable to use?
a) Start Routine or
b) End routine or
c) Trasnformation groups or
d) Expert routine
3) how do we select the DSO out of three? on which basis we want to choose and is delta is capable for all?

Hi,
The only reason to use a infosource in the 7.0 dataflow, is when you want some automatic conversions for time chars to happen .. if u r deriving the same on last level(cube), you would never need a infosource in between.. even though u have it ... as others mentioned there aint gonna be any considerable performance issue coming to load performance, coz u have a additional transformation.
Check these docs. They give a detailed explanation of how-to-do routines in BI7.0
[https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/e73bfc19-0e01-0010-23bc-ef0ad53f2fab]
[https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/fc61e12d-0a01-0010-2883-e2fc63ef729b]
Routines in new BI 7.0 version:
[http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04s/helpdata/en/e3/732c42be6fde2ce10000000a1550b0/content.htm]
Regards,
NR

Extraction failing after source system and client copy

Hi all,
We refreshed our source QA system with a copy of production. And basically tried to "restore" the connection from our BW QA system. Some of the datasources can be extracted from BW, others fail with an error of "No transfer structure is available for InfoSource 0COSTCENTER_ATTR in the source system".
Trying to do the same thing with RSA3 in the source system, works fine.
The strange thing is it works for some objects but not others.
here's what we did:
1. System copy from R3 Prod to R3 QA
2. Client copy with R3 QA client 300 -> 200
3. Restore connectivity in BW QA to the R3 QA system (Using RSA1 -> Source System -> Restore)
4. Now some objects can be extracted in BW, others fail as I mentioned above.
I have regenerated the transfer structures in BW and R3.
All of these objects that don't work seem to work in RSA3 on the R3 system but not in RSA1 on BW.
All the SAP documentation is geared to copying the R3 source system and then restoring connectivity between BW and R3. I don't think any of it involves copying the client in the R3 source system - which might be causing our problems.
We are using an SAP delivered PDF and note 886102 mainly for direction.
SAP PDF is "How to... System Copy in SAP Business Intelligence System Landscapes".
Does anyone have any ideas?
Thanks,
Kevin

Hi,
can you isolate somehow the kind of DataSource which works and those who don't?
Master data / transactional or client dependent and not, delta or full....
To which R/3 client is your BW connected? when you succeed loading the data, is it coming from the right client?
RSA3: do you run it specifying your BW client in the target sys field? does it make a difference if yes or if not?
Are your RFC connections and partner profiles all right?
Check some IDOCs sent by BW received in R/3 and vice-versa (RSSEND, RSINFO, RSRQST..). Load a hierarchy (via IDOC)... verify that your IDOC have the correct partner settings....
let us know
Olivier.
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Olivier Cora

Info Source 80FIGL_O06 is not defined in source system

Hi BW Experts,
When I am trying load data from ODS to Cube, I am getting a error messgae stating:
Info Source 80FIGL_O06 is not defined in source system
Error in Source system
This is an urgent issue. Please let me know if you have any suggestions...
Regards,
Reddy.

You can do this 2 ways. Right click on the ODS and say generate export datasource. The datasource will start with 8... and you can find that under Datamarts in RSA1-> Infosource. You can then create an infopackage and load from ODS through the update rules. You have the option of full load or delta load.
The other way you can go about this is again right click on the ODS and say update to data targets and just follow from there.
Did you follow the above steps? Where exactly is your problem?

Need Information on Sourcing cockpit and Business rule framework

Hi Experts,
I am having 2 general qustions :
1. ) What is sourcing Cokpit and what are the things that we can done from sourcing cockpit.Please explain in detail.
example : what i knw abt sourcing is...... It means from where we are going to source our material means vendor.
My idea is to know everything abt sourcing cockpit.
2. ) In SRM 7.0 what is the Busniess rule framework concept and if i need to configure a BRF approval process with respect to Shopping cart and a Purchase order in Extended classic scenario then how do i need to move ahead.
Thanks
Sunny

Hi,
Q no 1:
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1. The Purchase requisiton created from ECC 6.0 can be pushed to SRM for Sourcing . Either direct material with Part no or
Service requirement without part number
2. The shopping cart created in SRM can be converted to sourcing.
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you can get all the requirements.
From this you can convert it to Purchase order,contract,Auction. Bid invitation.
Q. no 2 :Business Rule Framework.(BRF)
This is related to Workflow .From SRM 7.0 this workflow is called Process controlled workflow. Only by simple rules the
Workflow for Approval process for P.O ,Contract,Bid invitation can be done.
If you are SAP ABAP person they you can confugure this .Normally ABAP person will do this.. Please go to S ID and get the
details there for Business rule framework
Just check in this forum in Search you can get more details and notes
go to Google.com and enter business rule framework you get more material
check this link
http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/nw-rules-management?rid=/webcontent/uuid/d00df7db-c783-2b10-aa97-ccfeacc19fcb [original link is broken]
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Hello Guys,
I'm creating a routine that can be use by any InfoPcakges...
how can I get the Source System and Data Source in a Routine?

Hi
Please check the table RSLDPIO,
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