Infopackage Group & Process chain

Hi All,
I read in documentation for Upgrade to BI 7.0, that infopackage groups needs to be migrated to Process chains, during upgrade.
But I do find infopackage groups existing in RSA1OLD( after upgrade) and they can be scheduled and seems to function properly.
1) So why is it necessary to convert infopackage groups to Process chain ?
2) If I don't migrate to Process Chain, what problems could occur ( as client is more keen on keeping infopackage groups and not disturb the setup.)
Regards,
Sandeep

Oops got posted twice....... Sorry

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